Toxic cooking oil

[John Paul]

Does cooking oil have a high heavy metal content?  Because it is a "concentrated" food I thought that I'd ask

[John Paul]

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does cooking oil have a lot of heavy metal toxins in it

[Harikrishnan]

6 hours ago, Michael569 said:

I used to think this too but actually, people who consume more linolenic acid (main constituent of the vegetable fats) have overall better health. WHen you look at the long term data none of the theories against vegetable oils stand their ground and all fall to pieces whether it is AMD, cancer, diabetes, fatty liver disease or heart disease. Vegetable oils have not yet been proven to cause disease. It seems that the main reason why this is is the extreme content of antioxidants which cannot be said about shit food like butter and lard which is like consuming cyanide

The only exception is when they contribute to obesity in excessive consumption  which in itself is a risk factor for all cause mortality but in moderate consumption, vegetable oils are actually useful. But then anything eaten in moderation which would contribute to becoming obese is a risk factor for disease because it is no longer about the food but about destroying one's metabolic efficiency by carrying all that adipose tissue 

Arent vegetable oils refined using hexane and other anti forming agents that becomes bad for health

[Javfly33]

@Michael569 those are such great news because Im basically addicted to this ali-oli (spanish typical sauce done with sunflower oil and garlic) and i am currently limiting myself with 1 pack a week because i had this belief that sunflower oil (along with other vegetable fats) is bad.

So i can But 2 or 3 a week now...? ??

[UDT]

On 21/02/2022 at 11:52 AM, Michael569 said:

I used to think this too but actually, people who consume more linolenic acid (main constituent of the vegetable fats) have overall better health. WHen you look at the long term data none of the theories against vegetable oils stand their ground and all fall to pieces whether it is AMD, cancer, diabetes, fatty liver disease or heart disease. Vegetable oils have not yet been proven to cause disease. It seems that the main reason why this is is the extreme content of antioxidants which cannot be said about shit food like butter and lard which is like consuming cyanide

The only exception is when they contribute to obesity in excessive consumption  which in itself is a risk factor for all cause mortality but in moderate consumption, vegetable oils are actually useful. But then anything eaten in moderation which would contribute to becoming obese is a risk factor for disease because it is no longer about the food but about destroying one's metabolic efficiency by carrying all that adipose tissue 

Nonono

If you actually look at the data (dont know which data you are looking at) added poly unsaturated fats are growing in the food supply since 1960s while obesity and disease growing with it (while added sugar and saturated fat content in food is falling) 

Here: https://www.businessinsider.com/our-war-on-fat-was-a-huge-mistake-graphs-2013-11


(edited because I was not nice to you but I see you are doing your best and I was just being a d*ck) 

Edited February 22, 2022 by UDT

[UDT]

Ah and;

The whole reason these oils are so bad is that they are incredibly easy to become oxidative due to their poly unsaturated chain structure. 
Why do nuts and seeds have antioxidants such as VitE in the first place? Exactly because the veg. oils are so easy to peroxidize. The stability of a fatty acid in terms of their carbon chain (sat, mono-unsat, or poly unsat) --> biochemistry. 
 

 

[UDT]

And for the nerds like myself:


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27355649/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1953841/



(and btw you get this all for free just because Im procastinating on this forum - but I also do proper health transformations with real clients )

[UDT]

On 23/02/2022 at 0:21 AM, Michael569 said:

 This guy has convinced me that mechanisms are not everything and that we actually need to look at the human data instead. 

I see!
I respect that
I´m way more interested in the mechanism, because studies are so weak especially in nutrition science - why? you are looking at one variable out of millions of processes happening in the same time frame where only 28% of them are even known in the literature. 

Or you can just look at how canola oil is factory made : https://youtu.be/Bdsy0pgZyzg 


Technically you could also argue that mechanisms are unkown so human outcome is more important. Makes sense but for mechanisms, we at least have limited factual understanding - human outcome is always biased through confounding variables

Edited March 3, 2022 by UDT

[slicketygiggedy]

@John Paul oil squeezed out a vegetable ain't natural in any shape or form lol