Is Martin Ball God-Realized?

[SelfHelpGuy]

I love his presence, its very authentic and loving.

I think an updated interview / podcast with him and @Leo Gura would be very beautiful. 

 

 

[Vincent S]

I would say so. 

[axiom]

I would say he's had a very powerful realisation. Unfortunately (in my view) his gestures can appear both affected and stagy. For example the "magical movements" he makes during his 5MEO trips feel like like nothing other than the dance of an inflated ego to me. I find them quite hilarious, and more than a little silly. Granted, that might be my weakness and not his. But then there is also his "God voice", which is strikingly similar to the voice of God in 'The Ten Commandments'... and it's hard to take that stuff seriously.

Poor embodiment in this sense sometimes gets in the way of an otherwise useful message. 

So it may be that he has realised God, but that doesn't automatically make someone a good teacher... and it doesn't make someone ego-less. To the extent that is possible, it takes radical honesty with oneself and embodiment on multiple levels. I haven't watched much of his stuff for a few years, so it's quite possible he's changed.

Edited January 23, 2022 by axiom

[Vincent S]

@axiom Indeed. Well said, he has a few gestures that is linked to ego behaviour.
But when he is doing those magical movements, those are the serpent in the spine making movements.
And aligning perfectly with the state of Consciousness that is flowing through the body.
I get those on very high doses of LSD, NN-DMT.

This video is very interesting, and touches on what you are saying ✨ 

 

Edited January 23, 2022 by Vincent S

[The Zen Viking]

2 hours ago, axiom said:

For example the "magical movements" he makes during his 5MEO trips feel like like nothing other than the dance of an inflated ego to me. I find them quite hilarious, and more than a little silly.

Or it could be an absolute surrender, resulting in perfect synchronization of body, mind and consciousness.

The movements look like more intense mudras, energy flowing through the body without resistance or blockages

[Vincent S]

Here is a vid showing 5 Meo and the Symetrical Movements. (Not me btw)

 

Edited January 23, 2022 by Vincent S

[SelfHelpGuy]

Ah I see, interesting observations.

I get a sense of truth and clarity from his most recent podcast I believe, which I linked a clip to in the original post.