changa - It was intense! DMT trip raport and questions!

[Forza21]

15 hours ago, RMQualtrough said:

DMT changes after repeated use.

Changa is basically smokeable Ayahuasca (as in, MAOIs + n,n-DMT - NOT any "meo")... Changa is very different from freebase, I assume Aya very different from Changa... Changa is more like a classical psychedelic. Freebase seems closer to Salvia Divinorum.

If you keep using DMT, after a while it will make sure you never touch it again. These are dangerous substances which can easily cause PTSD symptoms. Better to approach the substance such that you take smaller doses while in some kind of meditative state.

Just now, RMQualtrough said:

@TDLH Just so you know, San Pedro, Peruvian Torch (etc) is mescaline. Mescaline Hcl is very rare, but can be found on dark corners of the web.

So you actually discourage to take DMT? Isn't it avoidance of truth?

I mean, it sure was scary as hell. I still sense fear, when i recall this trip.

I felt so lonly, that there's no one else, it's just an illusion. Total madness, that i imagined all this. But at the same time, you may admire that so called "reality" exists in such a perfect way, and there's no limit to it. All it matters is perspective, right? So what's the danger?

[RMQualtrough]

5 hours ago, Forza21 said:

So you actually discourage to take DMT? Isn't it avoidance of truth?

I mean, it sure was scary as hell. I still sense fear, when i recall this trip.

I felt so lonly, that there's no one else, it's just an illusion. Total madness, that i imagined all this. But at the same time, you may admire that so called "reality" exists in such a perfect way, and there's no limit to it. All it matters is perspective, right? So what's the danger?

That idea isn't really frightening. When bad gets bad, it can give you PTSD easily.

[PurpleTree]

changa wasn't for me

the taste is woat, my lungs are probably too sensitive 

[Forza21]

13 hours ago, RMQualtrough said:

That idea isn't really frightening. When bad gets bad, it can give you PTSD easily.

19 hours ago, RMQualtrough said:

@TDLH Just so you know, San Pedro, Peruvian Torch (etc) is mescaline. Mescaline Hcl is very rare, but can be found on dark corners of the web.

Still don't understand how, and on what source do you base that information? Have you experienced it?

is DMT freebase better?

Edited January 3, 2022 by Forza21

[RMQualtrough]

30 minutes ago, Forza21 said:

Still don't understand how, and on what source do you base that information? Have you experienced it?

is DMT freebase better?

Yes I had PTSD symptoms from freebase DMT. I have mentioned before, the flashbacks were so bad I'd come to and look around for the pipe etc thinking I'd just done drugs, but I was totally sober and hadn't used drugs...

It can get severe. I was close to calling for psychiatric help but the symptoms subsided after a week and then only a little bit bad for another few weeks with intermittent night terrors.

[halfknots]

I have to point out that changa is not "basically" 5-MeO-DMT as OP claims. It is a a mixture of smoking herbs, an MAOI, and freebase n,n-DMT.

Edited January 7, 2022 by halfknots

[halfknots]

On 1/2/2022 at 8:14 AM, TDLH said:

As for San Pedro, it does not contain DMT, not that I am aware of.  The Shamans in Ecuador believe that San Pedro is a Grandfather Plant that, when consumed is a heart opening medicine.  During one of my experiences, I try to take as much San Pedro as I could, but was unable to release my physical image of self into the layers that DMT can go.  What I experienced was an expansion of Compassion, Love, Harmony with all living Beings, including my "Self"!  What I mean by Living Beings is/are Beings of consciousness which includes plants, animals, insects, rocks, water etc. and even our beloved Grandmother Earth’s consciousness.

San Pedro has mescaline as it's primary psychoactive component.

[Adodd]

On 1/1/2022 at 2:51 PM, Forza21 said:

4)What was your first experience on dmt? Does it get more manageable next time? it was so fast and intense. 
5) Does ayahuasca work similar to dmt, but you have longer time to integrate your experience? Maybe more time to manage fear?

It stays intense as fuck but gets less scary and more manageable. Ive had about 15 or so changa trips.

Similar to ayahuasca yes. Not the same though and not 5meo dmt at all. Changa is just smoked nn dmt and harmalas, ayahuasca is drinking nn dmt and harmalas.

You can even experiment with drinking the maoi than smoking the dmt (or vice versa) instead of smoking both or drinking both.

Changa is hardcore man. Start off small. I dont reccomend mixing psychedelics without doing a LOT of research and having a sitter the first few times because people react very differently to it but Changa on lsd is an unimaginable bliss for me. 

Edited January 7, 2022 by Adodd