My dreams are about future real life events?

[Jirh]

5 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

That last part I highlighted in your response basically implies the assumption that obvious psychic phenomena don’t occur, or at least not to us here that you’re responding to. As if they all are these “ambiguous” ones that need analysis and attempts at “putting the pieces together”. 

It's not about ambiguity. It's about leaps of faith.

Literally nothing of true significance happens, and some people call it psychic phenomenon.

Someone telling a story about some dream they had is not a psychic telling. It's just a highly patched up coincidence. Often, there's a lot of mental legwork that goes into it than appears.

Like I said to Carl from the beginning, you need to first establish that the connection you're proposing is real or of significance before you can make attempts at explaining the connection.

My claim is that the connection doesn't exist at all. You're imagining it.

5 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Psychic phenomena have to do with your mind, or what I like to call “inner landscape” (encompasses more than just mind in conventional sense).

If you experience them, it’s something about the state of your mind that allowed for it, and that state is one from which you interact with the world. So your experience of technology too will be different because of this state. (Doesn’t have to be like that for everyone, but talking from this perspective now)

I don’t use the word “psychic” in this strict conventional way as in distinct psychic experiences, textbook definition telepathy, clairvoyance etc. It encompasses more than that for me. It’s not so limited, the “psychic” quality can fuse into many types of experiences. It is precisely an increase in the sensitivity you talk about. 

You're referring to pre-rational psychic phenomenon; that magical phenomenon of unmediated mind connection. This idea is based on the assumption that the mind is non-local, or universal, or connected to other minds in some mysterious ways. That's all.. I don't know, weak, for lack of a better word. There is literally nothing to support those ideas except weak anecdotal reports that can be easily dismissed due to lack of coherence and consistency.

What I am suggesting instead, is that true psychic phenomenon actually exists in the things we see and use daily and take for granted like our phones and laptops. We are literally connecting with other minds without space and time limitations. Isn't that enough to consider telepathy/psychic? Just because it's mediated and has clear mechanisms doesn't make it any less magical, quite the opposite actually, the more I learn about and understand how technology works, the deeper my appreciation grows. It's absolutely astounding!

5 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Yes what you said applies, I bet some people do that, and yes “lack of sensitivity” is massive fundamental problem for humanity, but even open minded ones like you underestimate how deep this “sensitivity” can go. 

I don't mean emotional sensitivity here in this context. I mean logical sensitivity. You need logical sensitivity to spot the magic. After the first actual seeing you will need emotional sensitivity to feel it more and more. Logic is the initial spark. Emotion is how deeply you understand the phenomenon; how intimate you are with it. Luckily, I have both when it comes to this topic.

It's absolutely obvious and evident for me that psychic phenomenon exists and that it is magic. It's just not what you guys think it is.

We can predict the weather now with much more accuracy than ever. No psychic across history could do what we can now. A 10-day forecast is only accurate about 50% of the time, but a 5-day forecast is accurate about 90% of the time. That's clearly precognition and clairvoyance in its most literal forms. Literally, ancient people used to have psychics predict the weather for them to set sail or not. We are now capable of doing the exact same job with much more accuracy, using well-known mechanisms.

It's not a secret anymore. The mechanisms are clear as day and not ambiguous at all. Anyone can access the method and even add to it if they can. It's all available for free. These are tremendously valuable features of science.

But we are fish swimming in the magic of science, it's hard to spot let alone feel the magic when it's everywhere around. And instead, we seek magic in the rare and unreliable things. We mistake rarity for value and abundance for lack thereof.

[Jirh]

6 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

You mean it would’ve been proven by science and showcased to the public? I am also shocked at how little it seems acknowledged, I don’t even know how common it is. 

If there was a psychic person with real psychic abilities, they would be the most famous person alive. Why? Because they would be able to showcase their powers on YouTube and IG and everywhere online.

We only need one person in order to prove pre-rational psychic abilities. But that one person doesn't exist.

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You could say the same about spiritual awakening or could you not? Maybe you or someone would say something along the lines of “but that’s different because it’s about undoing the real” but that’s more so what full blown enlightenment entails (my guess), they are different. 

Spiritual awakening is a private inner experience/transformation. It's not a claim about external reality. It's a deep understanding of it.

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7 hours ago, Jirh said:

It's not about ambiguity. It's about leaps of faith.

Literally nothing of true significance happens, and some people call it psychic phenomenon.

Someone telling a story about some dream they had is not a psychic telling. It's just a highly patched up coincidence. Often, there's a lot of mental legwork that goes into it than appears.

Like I said to Carl from the beginning, you need to first establish that the connection you're proposing is real or of significance before you can make attempts at explaining the connection.

My claim is that the connection doesn't exist at all. You're imagining it.

Latest blog post fits good in this conversation.

Is not so simple, at all. You can connect more and more to the feeling of how paradoxical reality is. It is a connection that can be made. But not something everyone is eager to do.

You might be right at the end of the day even after going through all of that paradox and confusion, or you might be completely wrong. That's why I don't like jumping into conclusions right away.