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How to Get Through Extreme Emotional Pain

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Transcendence is simply BE-ing no matter what. 

Notice how in certain moments in this BE-ing two things occur: 1. Pleasure sensations are fully embraced and the one who is suffering doesnt arise. 2. Painful sensations are avoided and the one who suffers arises. 

If what is being communicated here successfully transmits to you, then youll never suffer again. Yes... suffering and pain are two different things, pain is another vibration/sensation like anything else, suffering is when thought creates an "I" that must be protected from the pain occurring.

Notice that, the next time youre depressed or feeling shitty, that for some strange reason youre defending yourself, even though there is no one to be protected there is only the painful sensation there. 

Heres the steps to get through the shitty-ness:

1. Find the most comfortable position, can be anything (laying down, hunched over with a sad face, standing up, etc.)

2. Close the eyes.

3. Quickly notice that the "real" thing is the pain occurring and thats it, and that there is only that pain.

4. Also, notice that the pain sensation is only a problem when the one who must be protected from the pain arises.

5. Once you see through the trick, be blissfully depressed :) . You'll naturally take comfort and notice that right now the sensations are always changing, and that you are slowly morphing into a brand new fresh "state" always.

Its truly incredible, that Love/God/Infinity is BE-ing this pain right now, so BE it.

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Good work ? 

I also find meeting emotional pain head on as you so describe, getting to the eye of the storm so to speak, dissolves it. 

This can also be known as purification. When you shine a light on a dark shadow what happens? 

It's the avoiding of pain that keeps it alive and persistent. What we resist, persists. 

Edited by Surfingthewave

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1 hour ago, iboughtleosbooklist said:

There's nobody to do that. It's just a movie. Whatever happens will happen.

@iboughtleosbooklist oh okay so when your mom taught you to wipe your ass you were just like "there's no one to do that it's like a movie mom, whatever happens will happen."

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3 hours ago, Khr said:

What if something really bad happens? A loss or betrayal? There are a thousand thoughts on ones mind, how can one just stop the thoughts and just feel the pain in the moment? The pain arises from those thoughts - regrets/remembering moments/memories. If there were no thoughts there would be no pain. And if one stops the thoughts for a little while, isn’t it a temporary solution? One can’t be thoughtless for a long period of time, so the moment thoughts come back, the pain comes back. Aren’t these painful thoughts something one has to go through in order to move past the pain? 

“how can one just stop the thoughts and just feel the pain in the moment?” You’ll need some solid levels of mindfulness likely paired with sensate and practical understanding of the three characteristics (no self, dukkha, impermanence) which you have brought into actuality through applying the understanding of the three characteristics with direct vipassana practice in my experience. 
 

“If there were no thoughts there would be no pain.” This is simply not true. You can be in a rather complete and continuous state of no-mind and still experience emotional pain. 
 

“One can’t be thoughtless for a long period of time, so the moment thoughts come back, the pain comes back.” This is also not true. I’ve been in a continuous state of no-mind for two weeks on two separate occasions. I’m sure many people have been in this for much longer. Also, realize that you keep talking about pain. Make sure to be clear on the distinction between pain and suffering. Suffering is an amplification of pain by identification. You can have thoughts which are just accurate descriptions of the pain which is experienced which do not amplify it. 
 

The most direct way I’ve found to become more successful at reducing suffering is working with the three characteristics through vipassana practices. 


“Any kind of consciousness whatever, whether past, future, or present, internal or external, gross or subtle, inferior or superior, far or near — a disciple of mine sees all consciousness as it actually is with proper wisdom thus: ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self.’” - the Tathāgata

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Great thread as usual ?? @Fearless_Bum


“Any kind of consciousness whatever, whether past, future, or present, internal or external, gross or subtle, inferior or superior, far or near — a disciple of mine sees all consciousness as it actually is with proper wisdom thus: ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self.’” - the Tathāgata

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@Khr let go of catastrophic thinking, just leave them alone. 

There's no 1000 thoughts. I challenge you to find each thought without first thinking about them. 

Also, relax take deep breaths. Be with the pain, focus on it, the truth is that the pain is the only "real" thing, thought is just a little fly buzzing in your ear.

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