How to deal with girls wanting favors and treats

[StarStruck]

14 hours ago, Vzdoh said:

@StarStruck @Mason Riggle 

 

When a grown as adult wants unconditional love from someone without doing anything, for me it means he is still a boy inside and needs mommy to love him unconditionally ???

That is what I want to be honest and it is not healthy. I need to work on that.

 

14 hours ago, Emerald said:

I would say to just go along with the demands if it's not too crazy money-wise. Get her the ice cream, the hamburger, the fries, etc.

But then, just don't go out on another date with that woman. It seems like a bit of a red flag to demand something on a first date. 

Either that, or you can go on one more date and see if the demanding behavior repeats itself. 

Pickup guys I know pay until they get in her pants. If sex is the only thing you want as a guy that is the best way to go.

 

14 hours ago, Mason Riggle said:

@Vzdoh good thing I'm not trying to date you.  I don't enjoy spending time with such materialistic people.  You don't know what my situation was at the time, or what other value I might bring to the table.  

Some people can be ruthless. They see a man as an extension of their own survival. They don't see them as a person in their own.

14 hours ago, ivankiss said:

Of course women don't owe me sex. And I do not owe them anything, either.

Still; I give and I recieve.

It is my absolute joy and pleasure to treat the girl I'm seeing, take her out for nice dinners, buy her cute, little presents, etc. I'm not doing any of that to get sex. At least not directly. I do it because I like it. It feels good, to both of us.

But if I sense any sort of entitlement or bitchiness from the girl, I'm out the door sooner than she can blink.

Would you still buy them gifts if they didn't give you sex though?

12 hours ago, flowboy said:

@StarStruck True, but it's not really about the informational content, rather the emotional content.

I can talk about IT in a way that is entertaining to girls, people rather, who don't understand the subject at all.

Because I talk about how it makes me feel, I express a wide range of emotions in the stories I tell. So following along is like an epic adventure, even if you have no idea what those words mean.

It is necessary to not just share your information, but also (most importantly) share your emotional experience.

Being stoic is not helpful.

The range of emotions you talk about should be a healthy mix of exciting, cool, heart-warming, and some sad, and some scary, et cetera.

If you fail to express feelings that are connected to stories, you won't have a lot of successful dates.

I get that but me being stoic is not a choice. It has become part of my personality. It is not that I don't have emotions so probably I could train to be more emotionally exuberant. Seduction happens on the emotional level so I know this is my Achilles heal.

 

 

[flowboy]

16 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

I get that but me being stoic is not a choice. It has become part of my personality. It is not that I don't have emotions so probably I could train to be more emotionally exuberant. Seduction happens on the emotional level so I know this is my Achilles heal.

Understandable. As a defense mechanism against being affected by too much negativity, it's totally working.

It also defends against making connections with people, and being relatable to girls, though.

Doesn't have to go away overnight. Just knowing that that is what you eventually need to develop out of, is enough. Take it one step at a time.