Proserpina's Journal

[thisintegrated]

4 minutes ago, Proserpina said:

Are you addressing me? What do you mean?

Gesundheit

It's common for super Green people like him to think Green is best, but that's unbalanced.  They don't recognize the problems that come from their lack of the other side of SD.

 

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I just mean that very deep levels of meditation can automatically do the work of deconstruction for you, with some assistance from contemplation work. 

I thought you were referring to soul destruction.

Meditation just lets go of attachment, that's all.  Maybe you could call that deconstruction.

Edited November 26, 2022 by thisintegrated

[Proserpina]

34 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

I thought you were referring to soul destruction.

Meditation just lets go of attachment, that's all.  Maybe you could call that deconstruction.

I think meditation tunes you to your intuition.  Intuition informs your intellect.  Like Gesundheit said. 

I'm not sure.  I'll have to think about it. 

Edited November 26, 2022 by Proserpina

[Proserpina]

Deconstruction work means to deconstruct the dream to where you realize reality to be a dream using either the feminine or masculine, intuition or intellect, respectively.  Deconstruction happens automatically as a result of spirit.  You don't have to try just means intuition is a fruit of the spirit in the sense that it results from communion with God and that intuition, the feminine, can be used for deconstruction work in conjunction with intellect, the masculine.  You can use contemplation work for deconstruction.  That would be using the intellect, the masculine.  Or you can rely on your intuition.  Ideally, you would be using both.  The masculine and the feminine as they work with each other, not over and against each other.  

 

 

[Artsu]

@Proserpina

I would imagine you get to Yellow, and perhaps even Turquoise, in your more spiritual states, but I don't believe you're there as a baseline. From reading your posts, you seem clearly in the Introspective mindset (upper Green), which is where most of this forum is at.

Still, I encourage you to try and be as Yellow as you can be.

 

Where I imagine you excel more so, is in spirituality. You would be further along in the Spiritual Hierarchy (I won't say any more about this) than most of this forum.

Spirituality is your strength, and as an ISFP (I'll call you that even if you identify as INFP) so is empathy and self-understanding.

Keep pursuing the mystical and higher states of being/awareness

 

[Proserpina]

@Artsu Thank you for your feedback and perspective, Artsu   I really appreciate the encouraging words. Truly.  I've been feeling a little discouraged and lacking in direction recently.  I appreciate your analysis. 

[Artsu]

@Proserpina

I'm sad to hear about your lack of direction.

I have 3 pieces of advice.

1. I notice you have a lot of writings, and there are core themes. Try to distill your ideas into something that can be written on a page or two. Get to the core ideas.

This will help with developing Ne and Ti as well as Yellow/Experimental.

2. For an Fi dom, it's not so much about having a direction, as doing what makes you happy.

Get to know your preferences. If you like something, move towards it. If you don't like something, move away.

3. The mental health system can be a big reason for lacking in direction.

Get angry about what they've done to you. It's wrong, and because of karma they will have to pay you back in the afterlife.

[Proserpina]

@Artsu Thanks for the advice. 

I think I need to focus in on my 'genius' which is spirituality and develop a laser focus, as you say.  Your intuition can be right on point. 

[Proserpina]

On the saving grace of intuition and communion with God:

Amazing grace—how sweet the sound—
That saved a wretch like me!
I once was lost, but now am found—
Was blind, but now I see.

'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears relieved;
How precious did that grace appear
The hour I first believed!

Thro' many dangers, toils and snares,
I have already come;
'Tis grace has brought me safe thus far,
And grace will lead me home.

And when this flesh and heart shall fail,
And mortal life shall cease,
I shall possess within the veil
A life of joy and peace.

When we've been there ten thousand years,
Bright shining as the sun,
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Than when we've first begun.

This statement resonates at a core level.  Reminds me of when I was channeling.  All is but a dream.  I remember this.  I know this. Deconstruction happens automatically as a result of spirit.  You don't have to try.  

 

Edited November 27, 2022 by Proserpina

[Proserpina]

Laser focus

From here on out, I'm going to going to have some kind of trigger in the background as often as possible to remind me and inspire me to commune with God.  No more distractions. 

• Spiritual teachers
• Holy texts
• Spiritual music
• Prayers

[Proserpina]

"Descending (self-immanence) is the downward drive towards earth, into the world of many manifestations and the body. Descenders celebrate life and its many forms, the body, and their sexuality. They go with the flow, are in touch with the richness of the manifest world, and experience things from the fullness of existence by diving in deep. Descending is also characterized as “the love that reaches down” (Agape), embracing everything—including earth and all its inhabitants—with selfless compassion and devotion. Descending energy expresses itself through feelings, empathy, emotions, warmth, movement, surrender, fullness, and flow. A descender perceives the world from the inside. Healthy descending means to be connected with and sensitive to the richness and fullness of the world, to be down-to-earth and in touch with one’s body, feelings, emotions, and sexuality. Unhealthy descending means to be overwhelmed, fused with, and run by the many details of life and its manifestations, feelings, earthly desires, and needs. The fear of descenders is to lose touch, to get lost, or to be dissociated from the fullness of life and its forces (Thanatos)"

 

Edited November 28, 2022 by Proserpina

[thisintegrated]

37 minutes ago, Proserpina said:

I won't be using my 'sword of truth' in the future. 

I'm curious what this is.  It sounds like my Ti2.

[Proserpina]

36 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

I'm curious what this is.  It sounds like my Ti2.

I hadn't connected it to Ti before.  Hm.  It is a value for truth above all else.  Self-sacrificing.  That could be linked to Te or Ti. 

The Sword of Truth

The Sword of Truth zeros in on certain values (truth) at the expense of other values you may hold.  Whether or not it is 'right' to zero in on certain values at the expense of others is up for debate.  The blade cuts through swiftly this way, with very little in the way,  just a clean cut.  Highly focused.  It might look clumsy.  Socially unaware.  It may even look malevolent, but if you look closely if it comes from a pure place, you'll see it.  It cleans up energies that need cleaning up. 

[thisintegrated]

27 minutes ago, Proserpina said:

I hadn't connected it to Ti before.  Hm.  It is a value for truth above all else.  Self-sacrificing.  That could be linked to Te or Ti. 

The Sword of Truth

The Sword of Truth zeros in on certain values (truth) at the expense of other values you may hold.  Whether or not it is 'right' to zero in on certain values at the expense of others is up for debate.  The blade cuts through swiftly this way, with very little in the way,  just a clean cut.  Highly focused.  It might look clumsy.  Socially unaware.  It may even look malevolent, but if you look closely if it comes from a pure place, you'll see it.  It cleans up energies that need cleaning up. 

I sometimes say Ti is the most pure / closest to God, of all functions.  It has no agenda, and all it does is find truth, ignoring all else.  It can be abused by other functions, but on its own it's just a channelling of God.  Unlike Te, there is no local source for all its ideas.  Ti insights just magically appear out of nowhere.

[Proserpina]

The sword of the truth is but one archetype that can come forth from channeling, there are many other archetypes that can come forth as a result of channeling.  Channeling is multidimensional and complex.  I've been focusing too much on one archetype and not on channeling itself, which is a mistake I think.  I want to use the sword of truth only if wild horses couldn't stop me and I'm receiving psychic green lights.  Otherwise, it's just all distraction.  

[Proserpina]

Focus

• Background triggers
• Regular meditations
• No Archetype idolization

Note to self:  Intuition told me 10 minutes every 4 hours of intense meditation is the magic ticket.  More frequently if I can. 

[thisintegrated]

15 hours ago, Proserpina said:

I've experienced this compatibility during mystical experiences and you both aren't 'human' anymore.

Astral sex??

[Proserpina]

8 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

Astral sex??

I have no idea what you mean by this.  But I'm pretty sure I'm not interested in finding out more either.  Please keep comments like this out of my journal.  It's disruptive.  If you ever get a job I wouldn't be surprised if you get busted for sexual harassment. 

[thisintegrated]

20 minutes ago, Proserpina said:

I have no idea what you mean by this.  But I'm pretty sure I'm not interested in finding out more either.  Please keep comments like this out of my journal.  It's disruptive.  If you ever get a job I wouldn't be surprised if you get busted for sexual harassment. 

What?  Well that's what people normally mean by such mystical experiences..  A merging of souls in realms beyond the physical.  Has nothing to do with sex, that's just what it's called??  That's the official name given to what you describe.  I assumed you're familiar with these things, but I guess not.  You speak of psychic abilities and knowledge of the non-physical, yet have never heard the term astral????

You kinda give mixed signals as to how much you know about the topics you talk about.

 

And I'm self-employed btw

Edited November 30, 2022 by thisintegrated

[Proserpina]

1 minute ago, thisintegrated said:

What?  Well that's what people normally mean by such mystical experiences..  A merging of souls in realms beyond the physical.  That's the official name given to what you describe.  I assumed you're familiar with these things, but I guess not.

You have to become aware of how you make people feel. Sometimes it's not good.  

[thisintegrated]

17 minutes ago, Proserpina said:

You have to become aware of how you make people feel. Sometimes it's not good.  

I don't even talk about meditation/consciousness to most people.  I'm selective about who I talk about these things with.

If I trust someone a lot I may talk a bit about solipsistic ideas.

If I really trust them I may talk about remote viewing.

Beyond that I may talk about psychic ability.

And if I fully trust someone, I may talk about the astral.  And if I suspect they may be more than a layman, I might use less well-known terms to gauge how deep I can go with them.

Edited November 30, 2022 by thisintegrated