Zigzag Idiot

Zigzag Idiot and the ladder of Objective Reason

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Everything is/has vibration.

What is not spiritual? Are 'so called' 'spiritual' perspectives/attitudes a necessary element in the life of an actualizer? I don't think it has to be. But often is and more often than not, becomes a stumbling block that some never get past or integrated. Spiritual materialism, Zen devil characteristics, false humility, self-righteous narrow mindedness. Every one of these descriptions triggers an associated realization labeling me as guilty. I view everyone else as being  my equal, if not worse, in regard to various kinds of self-deception. Being identified with whatever it might be. Worldview, gender views, loyalty to family, the results of childhood cultural conditioning, etc.

Actualizing human potentials that are connected more with survival and materialistic aims do not require one to move into the more abstract, philosophical, psycho-spiritual areas. Or however you want to name it. In my view, the psychological aspects such as integration and individuation are really at the heart of reaching an area beyond the built-in flaws that are a part of all human beings born today which also vary in aspects and degrees depending on race, subculture, that kind of thing,,,. I've avoided joining more advanced work groups like those of the Almaas Ridwhan school or Ken Wilbers' Integral community. Being on the fringe of some Gurdjieff groups or at times being a student of some of the different lineages seems to satisfy me for the time being. It was taught to me by one Fourth Way Teacher. "One has to make the Work your own" once it has moved into one's inner world in certain way. 
 

Maurice Nicoll- 

INNER TALKING III
“In this Work you cannot go far with pleasing self-made pictures
of your own nobility or value. When you begin to observe yourself deeply enough, these pictures, these fantasies, begin to change. You know that you yourself are just as bad or worse than the other person. Then I am quite sure from my own experience that a great deal of your inner talking will stop. You do not seek to justify yourself.”
V. 2, p. 776

RESPONSIBILITY FOR NEGATIVE STATES
“If you are in a negative state, it is always your own fault, from the Work point of view. No matter what happened, what someone said, what someone did, we have to become responsible for our negative states—ourselves. . .When you feel the presence of negative emotions in you, as a foreign substance, as acutely as a stomach-ache, then youwill seek, for your own reasons, to work on yourself and transform your inner state for your own inner health...But this takes many years and requires a certain inner courage, an inner bravery, an inner determination, until something new is born distinct from life.”
V. 2, p. 695

ON ‘NOT FIXING’
“As long as you externally consider another person with a view to trying to change him or her—that is, as long as you think the other person should be different—you are not externally considering, but internally considering. The basis of internal considering is that others should be different, and from this comes ‘making accounts’ against others...One thing is quite certain, and that is that the more sincerely we observe ourselves and what is in us, the less smug we shall be. And from this it follows that we shall be less satisfied to think that we know what the other person should be like.” V. 1, pp. 268-9

THE FEELING OF NOTHINGNESS
“When the Work says that a man must come to realize his own nothingness before he can be re-born, it does not mean that he must humble himself and so on, but that he must by long self-observation actually begin to realize that he is nothing and that there is no such person as himself. The object of this is to get into a position, psychologically speaking, between the opposites...Why is it so important
to get somewhere into the centre of the pendulum and not swing to and fro? Because here, between the opposites, lie all the possibilities of growth. Here influences from higher levels can reach us. Here, in this place where one can feel one’s own nothingness (and where one is therefore free from contradictions), influences and meanings coming from higher centres, which have no contradictions, can be felt. Not regarding yourself as good or bad, not priding yourself on being just or otherwise, not thinking you are well-treated or badly-treated, not being caught by either movement through identifying, you come into this mid-position. This is not easy! With personality active, it is impossible.” V. 1, p. 329

Edited by Zigzag Idiot
Adding Maurice Nicoll quotes

"To have a free mind is to be a universal heretic." - A.H. Almaas

"We have to bless the living crap out of everyone." - Matt Kahn

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