No Manipulation amd Do nothing the same?

[i am I AM]

@Nahm I have not found this to be true. Wouldn't probability indicate a dependent relation, or do I have a parralel understanding? Or whatever. 

[Nahm]

@i am I AM Why would it?

[i am I AM]

Because the mind is saying probability has a definition, and its nature of dependence, is, well, dependent upon someone trusting the mind on this. 

[Nahm]

@i am I AM What is the definition of your hand?

[i am I AM]

@Nahm

[B_Naz]

5 hours ago, Jack River said:

What are doings? What would qualify dudes? 

This is where it gets tricky. If you try and describe what is a doing, that is your own version of a doing.

If you try and describe doing, you are doing the doing by saying that doing is since...

Conceptually, doing is the action of putting values, meanings, judgement and such onto the "raw" universe (my own version of it).

 How can you trust your mind to know what a doing is.  This is only TRUE to my mind. How can I trust myself? Is there a such thing as OBJECTIVITY

 

[Jack River]

17 minutes ago, B_Naz said:

This is where it gets tricky. If you try and describe what is a doing, that is your own version of a doing.

The self is the same for all humans. Doings are psychological Movement. Desire, motive, effort, and such. Any direction of thought psychologically is a doing. 

[Jack River]

@B_Naz a thread on what is a doing would be pretty good to open. 

[B_Naz]

17 minutes ago, Jack River said:

The self is the same for all humans. Doings are psychological Movement. Desire, motive, effort, and such. Any direction of thought psychologically is a doing. 

Yessss. This is a very nice way to keep it simple when talking about doing. So we have to use awareness to see the doing. I am now understanding what you mean now when talking about disguising 

Indeed, you do see the Doing being disguised. 

[Aakash Vijayan]

I meant the meditation techniques. The meditation technique for beginners. 

I realise i couldve framed the question better.

Do nothing technique vs No manipulation technique. Leo suggested em as meditation techniques beginners could get into 

Edited October 10, 2018 by Aakash Vijayan