Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, SOUL said: Then why do you post so much stuff on this forum analyzing about the characteristics and behavior of thoughts? It sure is a lot of complicated pointing, pages of pointing at thoughts.....haha As I said up above: 1. Unconditional attention is the thing. Direct insight. 2. What is unconditional attention then? Are we sure we’re not just subtly thinking? Can thought sneakily hijack attention? 3. Then what is the nature of thinking then? Do we understand thought’s subtlety? Hence these discussions arise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, robdl said: As I said up above: 1. Unconditional attention is the thing. Direct insight. 2. What is unconditional attention then? Are we sure we’re not just subtly thinking? Can thought sneakily hijack attention? 3. Then what is the nature of thinking then? Do we understand thought’s subtlety? Hence these discussions arise. Again this seems pretty important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, robdl said: As I said up above: 1. Unconditional attention is the thing. Direct insight. 2. What is unconditional attention then? Are we sure we’re not just subtly thinking? Can thought sneakily hijack attention? 3. Then what is the nature of thinking then? Do we understand thought’s subtlety? Hence these discussions arise. Yes, thoughts have hijacked your experience.... I talk about being, awareness and consciousness, you talk about thought self ego fear.... what is the focus of your attention? Not subtle it's so obvious. Hah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SOUL said: Yes, thoughts have hijacked your experience.... I talk about being, awareness and consciousness, you talk about thought self ego fear.... what is the focus of your attention? Not subtle it's so obvious. Hah Speaking about Be-ing is fine if that’s what you want to do...but is it subtle?...i think not... It’s fairly easy to accumulate a couple of non-dual lines and throw them here on the forum. It’s obvious when ‘we’ do this? Edited September 19, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) That can be as simple as conforming to some idea, concept, non-dual theory, and then regurgitating it in a thread. Thought loves to do this..it loves it ❤️ Edited September 19, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 Do you know what the lizard brain is? The phenomenon of fragasaurus.....rawr! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Faceless said: That can be as simple as conforming to some idea, concept, non-dual theory, and then regurgitating it in a thread. Thought loves to do this..it loves it ❤️ All thought needs is a thinker/knower/self — even if the thinker is thinking/knowing/theorizing about nonduality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 Just now, robdl said: All thought needs is a thinker/knower/self — even if the thinker is thinking/knowing/theorizing about nonduality. Very very Sneaky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, robdl said: Thought clings-attaches-identifies. Some call this a sticky action, indeed. I have as well. Thought reacts to/within itself mechanically, as an identification-attachment process, as it seeks security in its own movement. This is all true and seen wholly. So you’re characterizing it as separate, conflicting perspectives but they’re unitary. It’s one and the same. @SOUL do you see that the stickyness-identification-clinginess of thought and the self-reacting/identifying movement of thought are one and the same thing? Thinking is a process-movement of reactive attachment-clinging. So thought is sticky but it’s also a self-reactive movement. They aren’t mutually exclusive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 The theorizing, knowing, and thinking sustains, nourishes, and perpetuates the thinker, knower, self. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 What does a 'being' need? A be-er? Ok thanks I'll have one....it will help with all of this thought talk.... I will be-er about unity infinity. rawr! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) well to be fair, even an image loves to imitate BE-ing...it loves it Thought is very subtle. It’s mechanical tendencies will invent invent invent...sneaky sneaky Edited September 19, 2018 by Faceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Faceless said: well to be fair, even an image loves to imitate BE-ing...it loves it An image loves....?.....to imitate? I am being... it may be a simulation or an illusion or a vision maybe a revelation, but I am being. Whatever it is. rawr! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 Oh yes..Thought loves to imitate, conform to patterns... mechanical indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) All there is is you talking to yourself. Edited September 19, 2018 by Joseph Maynor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 52 minutes ago, Faceless said: Speaking about Be-ing is fine if that’s what you want to do...but is it subtle?...i think not... It’s fairly easy to accumulate a couple of non-dual lines and throw them here on the forum. It’s obvious when ‘we’ do this? Um... well yea being is totally obvious..... it is ubiquitous.... if one is an aware being. heh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: All there is is you talking to yourself. Exactly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: All there is is you talking to yourself. That's an illusion of nothingness. rawr! Edited September 19, 2018 by SOUL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, SOUL said: That's an illusion. It doesn't exist. rawr! Illusions exist, it’s just that there’s nothing behind the scenes with an illusion. Edited September 19, 2018 by Joseph Maynor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said: Illusions exist, it’s just that there’s nothing behind the scenes with an illusion. Edits are illusions..... raw....cough cough... r! heh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites