Consciousness vs Brain

[Laymen]

Hey guys I wanna discuss consciousness with the brain. Honestly, I still can't shatter the old paradigm assuming  consciousness happens within the brain. Can anyone give honest opinions? 

[Faceless]

Do you want a theory, conceptualization do you want to see it actually as a fact???

Conciousness with its conditioned movement/content must be understood and ended to understand that question...Until the conditioned brain ceases to operate, all explanations are influenced by that very conditioning. 

 

 

People are going to come into this thread and explain away this question you have, which is fine.

But you will never actually see for yourself until the conditioned brain/consciousness ceases to move. 

 

 

First understand the movement of the conditioned brain. Being, all movement of thought/the self. All the contents of your consciousness such as beliefs, fear, desire, and all the rest of the contradicting aspects of conditioned thought/ego.

To investigate the nature, structure, and substance of thought/self..In this understanding one understands the nature of experience and how experience “the accumulation of memory in response” determines all conditioned action. 

 

And if that becomes an actuality you will have your answer. 

 

Remember, we use thought to explore such questions. If thought is not running in order the investigation will be corrupted by its very own movement in contradiction. Contradiction, the conditioned brain must be understood. And in that understanding comes order. If the tool we use is corrupt, the investigation will inevitably be so. 

 

Explore the nature of thought. Knowbody can teach you this. One must self reflect. Although there are people in the past who have explored this already. Look into it.

Edited June 2, 2018 by Faceless

[Guest Quanty]

The Brain is the tool of Consciousness. 

And our body has more than 1 brain  

Edited June 3, 2018 by Quanty

[lmfao]

@Laymen Well, to make any truth claim about reality we must operate on our own unprovable/groundless assumptions about the nature of reality. If we are to make the typical assumptions of someone who believes in the "scientific method" https://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/basic_assumptions , then you would arrive at the conclusion that consciousness is indeed "created" by the brain. 

As far as I'm concerned, I don't really know if consciousness is created by the brain. I'd say the brain does create consciousness because I like to operate on scientific/materialistic assumptions about the world. Even if we look at consciousness through a materialistic lens, there's still a shit-ton of stuff we don't understand about consciousness.

 

Edited June 3, 2018 by lmfao

[Ananta]

@Laymen Just off the top of my head, Id say, if consciousness happens within the brain, then what would be the fundamental reality of the brain (body)?