Why spiritual girls talk about "frequencies" and why they get debunked?

[Wilhelm44]

36 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Depends on what you call spirituality.  What do you define it as? Because Christians call themselves spiritual. But they're too strong. They push it on you.  And all i seem to meet are Christian girls. And out of those there are a handful that push it. Most don't care.

By spiritual, i dont mean religeous. There's a wide range of spirituality beyond traditional religion. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Wilhelm44 said:

By spiritual, i dont mean religeous. There's a wide range of spirituality beyond traditional religion. 

Yeah i agree.  

[integral]

4 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

@integral  This is a bit of a blind spot on the forum in my opinion.

Everything gets reduced to Consciousness or the Absolute.

And then somehow certain phenomena within Consciousness are just viewed as fantasy, bit lazy if you ask me.

The topic is about new age spirituality not the real thing.

Very few people at green have any real energy healing abilities. 

[Wilhelm44]

4 hours ago, integral said:

Energy healing is assisted meditation at the level they are doing it at. Very useful but Nothing more then that. They believe they are transferring vibration/energy to another person, and its not. 

I don't think you have been to any real powerful energy healers.

Energy healing is similar to channeling.

"assisted meditation" - not sure what kind of healers you visited ?

[Wilhelm44]

5 hours ago, integral said:

"phenomena within Consciousness, like energy, healing possibilities, aliens etc." i dont consider this a good understanding on consciousness, its mostly lost in fantasies and stories.

You honestly believe aliens don't exist ?

[integral]

22 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I don't think you have been to any real powerful energy healers.

Energy healing is similar to channeling.

"assisted meditation" - not sure what kind of healers you visited ?

Real powerful energy healing is not real.

it has nothing to do with them giving you energy or transfering there aura or anything like that.

Its you vibing better with them present = assisted meditation. 

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[Asayake]

34 minutes ago, integral said:

Real powerful energy healing is not real.

it has nothing to do with them giving you energy or transfering there aura or anything like that.

Its you vibing better with them present = assisted meditation. 

I haven't experienced it myself but I can see a case for energy healing being real. Consider this: You're in love with a girl and you sit in a sofa and look each other in the eyes, this is not merely presence, it's an archetypal energy. 

Or if you were in a locked room with a serial killer who looks batshit insane and he stares you down, you'll have a profoundly strong reaction akin to drugs. 

I haven't experienced it myself but based on these two examples I'd claim powerful energy healing could be possible.

[Wilhelm44]

29 minutes ago, integral said:

Real powerful energy healing is not real.

Energy healing is similar to channeling.

My wife is an example of a gifted healer. I saw this with my own eyes once.

We were just married, chilling at home on the weekend, when my mom called in tears.

Somehow my 6 year old nephew's lungs had collapsed. The doctor told my sister to prepare herself, because

he probably wasn't going to make it.

My wife said she wanted to do some distance healing.

She invokes higher beings to assist in the process.

Afterwards, she went to the toilet and started throwing up.

A crazy amount of liquid came out, with a totally black color.

30 minutes later my mom phoned and said my nephew somehow came back from the brink, and the doctor said his vitals were looking better.

Now you'll probably say it was unrelated, but I'm telling you I felt something different in the room that day.

[integral]

9 minutes ago, Asayake said:

I haven't experienced it myself but I can see a case for energy healing being real. Consider this: You're in love with a girl and you sit in a sofa and look each other in the eyes, this is not merely presence, it's an archetypal energy. 

Or if you were in a locked room with a serial killer who looks batshit insane and he stares you down, you'll have a profoundly strong reaction akin to drugs. 

I haven't experienced it myself but based on these two examples I'd claim powerful energy healing could be possible.

Vibe is exactly that? I think we're miscommunicating because when I use the word vibe, I'm talking about a very real, very important thing. That has a dramatic effect on physiology.

The placebo effect cures illnesses and has a very real effect on healing the body.

New age and stage green have taken this mechanism and used it and packaged it as energy healing.

Religious people have been doing this from the beginning of time, Dramatic healings on stage.

Belief is extremely powerful and if you believe energy healing is real and Depending on what you're struggling with, it can have a very significant effect on you.

A lot of people can't do meditation because their own self-generated vibe sucks. It is way more effective if they're in a group activity or with someone they think is an authority in energy healing and for them to believe in the spirituality of healing vibration.

8 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Now you'll probably say it was unrelated, but I'm telling you I felt something different in the room that day.

Reading the room is reading the vibe of the room and it's a real phenomenon.

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, integral said:

Reading the room is reading the vibe of the room and it's a real phenomenon.

I don't think you even read what I wrote there.

Go marry yourself a real witch. You'll be humbled, trust me.

[Joseph Maynor]

I find this charming actually.  I don't think they get debunked lol.

[integral]

4 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

real witch

Ya but real witchs arent stuck in new age metaphysics.

The topic was new age.