How do you define a relative self?

[kavaris]

3 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

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@Joseph Maynor@Inliytened1

6 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I don't like relative because it means everyone is the same.  There is a sense in which we are all the same, but not in every respect.  

Wai. Back up.

Lastnite somethin interesting happened..

Something cut to the core, but now we are going backwards w/ opinions, how it feels to chew watchamakalit bubblegum. I cnt find the words for it, Like...

Hold that thought, and roll it forward/back, and rub it around again. There was a very core idea (jog the right idea forward basically, as we might be able to find it as a shared form)

Edited 8 hours ago by kavaris

[kavaris]

I guess... well.... I guess its like... if you can... Like, if its something you can do, for you, effectively speaking, to not get too hung up on the separate or relative/relevant senses of like.... like for example, if i was like "Everyone has there own path that they resonate w/ or that they feel they're on or watever", The part you dont wanna get hung up on is the "everyone" part, right? Like, if thats what you get out of it, you would always contend w/ the idea that "everyone" is doing <x>

That same sorta sense of like, colliding w/ many paradoxical things now, its an unavoidable, unmistakable thing, when you are experiencing it. But you can atleast realize it in the moment, and then try to not do it?...

I felt like there was two diff things i was juggling, but thats atleast one single idea, which also sounds like the stupdest of the things, but its an idea you could sit w/

Edited 7 hours ago by kavaris

[cetus]

How do you define a relative self?

Consciousness taking on an avatar.

[Breakingthewall]

I believe the matter of consciousness can be cleanly defined. Consciousness is reality structured in a specific way, a structure that reality takes on when life occurs. Life is essentially a self-preserving process that carves out its own rules by building a buffer against the "external" universe.

When biological complexity crosses a certain threshold, an interface emerges. This interface acts as a dynamic model of information exchange between the organism and its environment. Within that model, an unchanging reference point appears, the witness, flanked by memory and prediction.

This entire cloud of integrated processes is what we call consciousness. Its ultimate nature is still reality, but operating in a specialized mode: reality experiencing itself through the prism of a relative subject.

[Inliytened1]

11 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I believe the matter of consciousness can be cleanly defined. Consciousness is reality structured in a specific way, a structure that reality takes on when life occurs. Life is essentially a self-preserving process that carves out its own rules by building a buffer against the "external" universe.

When biological complexity crosses a certain threshold, an interface emerges. This interface acts as a dynamic model of information exchange between the organism and its environment. Within that model, an unchanging reference point appears, the witness, flanked by memory and prediction.

This entire cloud of integrated processes is what we call consciousness. Its ultimate nature is still reality, but operating in a specialized mode: reality experiencing itself through the prism of a relative subject.

Getting much better with the English. Wow.  You are ions ahead of where you were a year ago.  Very nice

What do you think about the whole psychedelic topic and degrees of Infinity and this distinction between enlightenment and God realization? Because if think it's bullshit.  There is one awakening 

Edited 1 hour ago by Inliytened1

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

Getting much better with the English. Wow.  You are ions ahead of where you were a year ago.  Very nice

I used the translator, sometimes I write by myself and others when the topic is complex I use the Google translator, anyway I improved a lot in English those years

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

What do you think about the whole psychedelic topic and degrees of Infinity and this distinction between enlightenment and God realization? Because if think it's bullshit.  There is one awakening 

There is one awakening, the breaking of the barriers and the openess to your unlimited nature. But are degrees of dissolution of the barriers, you can't live all time without any structure

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I used the translator, sometimes I write by myself and others when the topic is complex I use the Google translator, anyway I improved a lot in English those years

There is one awakening, the breaking of the barriers and the openess to your unlimited nature. But are degrees of dissolution of the barriers, you can't live all time without any structure

Breaking the wall.

[Inliytened1]

@Breakingthewall yeah. You can realize God ever deeper but that is the power of Love. That's what Love is. It is infinite. If you thought you were on your knees before think again.  God will make you weep like you never did before. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Inliytened1