Life is the meaning of life.

[integral]

This feels really self-evident, So I'm asking this question to see if there's a bias I'm missing."

When you remove all beliefs, all stories like that your mother gave birth to you. If you remove every possible story about your life, about everything, you deconstruct everything and you go back to just staring at your hand or staring at a table, with just with nothing going on. Completely back to a blank slate.

it Is self-evident, that the reason you exist, the purpose and meaning of your existence is to exist.

This existence, this moment, what's happening right now, is the reason, the meaning, and the purpose of your life and existence.

Now, this is extremely obvious to me, so I'm asking, am I completely delusional?

I don't know if this took an awakening to understand. And I just forgot when it happened. But if you try to explain this to anyone, they are 100% unable to understand what you're saying. 

They say some story like "there is no meaning to life" or you're here to learn something.

No. You exist right now and that's the point. There's no other point... There is no esoteric meaning, there is no higher purpose meaning, there is no fantasy and story meaning that you're searching for. But there is an ontological meaning.

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[Leo Gura]

Well, if you want to be really rigorous, you don't actually know that there is no higher purpose. What if God gave you life for some higher purpose you have not yet discovered?

Just because you feel no purpose now does not mean there isn't some higher purpose to your existence.

[integral]

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Well, if you want to be really rigorous, you don't actually know that there is no higher purpose. What if God gave you life for some higher purpose you have not yet discovered?

Just because you feel no purpose now does not mean there isn't some higher purpose to your existence.

Mmmm yes, that's true. I do feel a purpose, which is this right now. But it is true i can possibly discover a higher one.

I doubt that any higher purpose would have anything to do with the way I live my life? Is this a bias?

Maybe awakening is my purpose, and God is trying to awaken every part of itself. But this conflicts with oneness. So it's hard to... see why.

If I awaken now or I awaken at death, what's the difference?

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[LastThursday]

The argumentation is circular: the meaning of existence is existence. But it's not all lost, existence is huge and there's a lot there to have meaning about. Meaning is inside existence. Existence is the ground, meaning is the figure.

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, integral said:

If I awaken now or I awaken at death, what's the difference?

What is the difference if you become a billionaire now versus on the last day of your life?

[Nemra]

I think God wants to create itself to love itself as much as possible.

[integral]

7 minutes ago, LastThursday said:

The argumentation is circular: the meaning of existence is existence. But it's not all lost, existence is huge and there's a lot there to have meaning about. Meaning is inside existence. Existence is the ground, meaning is the figure.

I think your trying to separate meaning and existence, but that doesn't make sense because existence is the most meaningful thing that could ever happen.

Existence and meaning co-arise ontologically. But there is ontological meaning and relative everyday meaning making. And these are different.

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What is the difference if you become a billionaire now versus on the last day of your life?

Live a life awake or asleep. I can see value in that and say, "Okay, that's valuable.". I'd rather live 50 years awake than sleep.

But why is this a higher purpose?

[integral]

I'm thinking of a higher purpose as at the ontological metaphysical level.

If there is a higher purpose that isn't just to exist or to experience this life, then... It really puts a lot of pressure on you. lol

[Human Mint]

2 hours ago, integral said:

all stories like that your mother gave birth to you.

Your mother won't like that