How do i feel amazing without needing psychedelics?

[Jordan of the Shire]

On 10/18/2026 at 3:21 PM, Asia P said:

then i wonder what's the work? where i should search? psychedelics were great but after all my experiences i feel stuck lately. 

The mind is homeostatic so the practice tends to go in waves, where you'll experience some measure of progress and then go through a measure of tribulation where progress is difficult, and could seem like slipping back.

Leo advocates for lengthy retreat and serious practice. 

From my perspective what you want and go for with sincerity gets you the best results.

But if you go on a 10 day vipassina retreat and then don't meditate for 6 months, because it was too much too quick, than its like trying to bake a cake with too much heat.

Take a patient, 1 drop in the tub approach over a long period of time, and expect that sometimes you feel good, others not so good. 

Practicing Yoga, meditation, these are how I do it. I have a teacher who I consult with weekly for a few months then I don't for a few months while I apply the practice on my own, and we've been working like that for a couple years now. 

In so far as I have experienced, the key is bringing the mind back to the dharma / spiritual wisdom as much as you can, and keeping the mind on the experience. But the neuroticism to practice can get in the way as well. 

Also keeping your mind on your experience, being mindful all the time, can create problems, so I think thats why yoga is helpful. You're in the body, and the practice, but there is a purging element to it. 

So you want to purge energy as you cultivate it. It's not always about building, sometimes about clearing out.

Spiritual practice is an art of knowing yourself, what practices to implement, and being patient, compassionate, and accepting of change.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 10:02 PM by Jordan of the Shire

[yetineti]

@Schizophonia

What are you trying to say?

 

[Lyubov]

You have to realize that living in Wu Wei is an art, it is an earned experience. It's not something you pop a pill for. You have to deliberately practice it and cultivate the same thing as anything else you would attempt to master. It is the art of living. You are in for a surprise if you have certain beliefs about the way things should be. They will not always line up with the reality of things. This will make you feel bad. At the same time have you taken account for all the ways you sabotage and create painful emotions for yourself otherwise? Comparing, judging, critisizing, expecting people and the world to be different than it is? At the end of the day this work is not about emotions. You have to see through emotion, cease to create what isn't working and stop living by emotional logic.