Bliss Is Not A (Specific) Feeling

[Joseph Maynor]

You might examine the duality between relative and Absolute Truth.  This became dogma on the path due to Indian Philosophy.

[Mellowmarsh]

6 minutes ago, Hyperion said:

I could say "reality", but for any statement that you make about reality therevis an opposite statement which is equally relatively (un)true.

No one is denying or disputing this claim. 

[Wilhelm44]

18 minutes ago, Hyperion said:

Umm, are we posting on the same forum? 

Really, there are actually people who believe the bus will pass right through them ? 

[Mellowmarsh]

24 minutes ago, Hyperion said:

Then why not say "happenings never stay the same forever as fixed unchanging events" instead of "nothing has ever happened”?

Because nothing has ever happened. have you ever experienced nothing? 

[Joseph Maynor]

Bliss assumes this architecture of the relative vs. The Absolute.  But is there a duality between finite bliss and Absolute Bliss?  Again, this discussion is very philosophically (ideologically) loaded.  

[Hyperion]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Because nothing has ever happened. have you ever experienced nothing? 

I sure have, but what exactly does that have to do with my question?

[Hyperion]

2 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Really, there are actually people who believe the bus will pass right through them ? 

My man, you'd be surprised what people believe once they blow enough magic powder up their butthole.

[Breakingthewall]

On 30/9/2026 at 11:04 AM, Hyperion said:

Foxes have holes and the birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head.

- Matthew 8:20 -

Foxes and birds have lots of advantages, but they can't open it's eyes to the absolute, and humans can. Then who needs holes and nests when you have what has not limits as home?

Who wants being an slave when you can be free, tasting the absolute freedom that is your true nature? 

Bliss is very simple: it's what happens when all boundaries disappear. Ananda as the advaita said, the absolute joy of being without limitations that is inherent to everything 

Edited 14 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[kavaris]

Bliss is sensed through (and you might even phrase it as "tied to" to be fair) that Soul, that inner fire of creativity, which makes "figuring out the etymological feeling place" very tough from the audiences point of view — IF to say "Hey guys, I want to be *in* on the *inside* of the piece / joke, since i can feel the bleu soul asunder too!... and all the minûte details of it too... right? right? I know cause i went to college of Books w the kind loving smart ppl" Its like,

"... Uhhhhmmmm. Its not something you explain logically? Its more akin to the scenario of... you or i perform the musical piece, or prolific writing piece, And then everyone feels something parallel to the inner fire" (see below)

Edited 7 hours ago by kavaris

[kavaris]

(part 2) we are the falling leaves, right now, of Autumn/fall. We are the friendship that can happen, Right now. Like, we are the seasons demonstrated for each other now. Like when we return to the Eternal Waterfall of our future-past, that instance is ocurring later on when the events of the fall and fire have already happened, if that makes sense.

Edited 7 hours ago by kavaris

[Wilhelm44]

21 hours ago, Hyperion said:

Do you ever feel like you are literally being consumed by silence... like there's an invisible black hole that just perpetually sucks you in and swallows you up?

Yeah, it feels like the mind is being sucked in by some singularity.

[Mellowmarsh]

11 hours ago, Hyperion said:

I sure have, but what exactly does that have to do with my question?

Because you asked why say “nothing has ever happened” so I answered you, and now you’re asking what has my answer have to do with your question.

And my answer to that would be because it does. It’s related and relevant to your question. 

[Hyperion]

@Mellowmarsh

Well if you scroll back, you will find that my actual question was:

14 hours ago, Hyperion said:

Then why not say "happenings never stay the same forever as fixed unchanging events" instead of "nothing has ever happened”?

And the reason I was asking is because I just don't see how these two statements are related.

[Wilhelm44]

@Hyperion  When I dream at night that a tsunami wiped out my town.

And I wake up in the morning to realize that it was just a dream.

Can we not say that what apparently happened in the dream, never actually happened ?

[Mellowmarsh]

13 hours ago, Hyperion said:

I sure have, but what exactly does that have to do with my question?

Because you asked why say “nothing ever happened” but then changed the narrative.

But the same answer would have answered to the change of narrative and the answer would be the same because “ ultimately nothing has ever happened and never not happened”

 

See what I did there..we can all change the narrative to suit our own unique understandings.

[Hyperion]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

@Hyperion  When I dream at night that a tsunami wiped out my town.

And I wake up in the morning to realize that it was just a dream.

Can we not say that what apparently happened in the dream, never actually happened ?

Sure, that would be a relatively (un)true statement.

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Hyperion said:

Sure, that would be a relatively (un)true statement.

Sure, as long as it suits your particular narrative, then sure, all is hunky dory, no one is disputing this.

[Hyperion]

@Mellowmarsh

I'll be happy to once more repeat my actual question:

Why not say "happenings never stay the same forever as fixed unchanging events" instead of "nothing has ever happened”?

The first statement implies that something did happen (but didn't last) while the second statement says that nothing ever happened.

So why insist that they state the same when they obviously contradict each other?

[Wilhelm44]

20 minutes ago, Hyperion said:

Sure, that would be a relatively (un)true statement.

You bamboozling me with that one 

Is it not just plain and simple to say: The tsunami didn't actually wipe out my town, it was just a dream. ie it didn't actually happen, period.