finally some breakthrough

[Olaf]

I was with a wing who had allot of experience and I listened to his conversation which was so interesting. They were walking behind me so I walked in front so I could hear everything. He was just very normal, normal conversation, like almost as if they were on a date, it was his first approach and he closed it. That is how good he is. What I learned from listening to him is that you need to be more grounded. Then he taught me that I need to be less non reactive and practice that, so I did. He already had to go home, but I practiced solo and approached an absolutely intimidating girl, she was a bit bitchy but I remained non reactive. Later on some guy was angry at me in the street for some traffic shit, but I remained non reactive.

And then my last approach that I did was at the train station. I repeated in my mind, I am grounded, chill and don't need an outcome, like a mantra that I came up with. I entered the set and it went very well. She had colourful clothes on so it was easy to talk about it, how her earrings look like mais corn etc. I teased her a little and she was genuinely interested asking what I did etc. Then I said "I have to go with the train, but lets exchange number" and I got her instagram instead. It feels like water in a dessert when you haven't closed in a while lol. And afterwards she offered her hand and asked what my name was. I did make the mistake to say my name and leave when I could have stayed and tell something about myself so she is more likely to respond, but who cares. I even felt this morning in my gut that this is gonna be a good day. 

Edited yesterday at 07:17 PM by Olaf

[Miguel1]

Finally you are grounding yourself after all the monkey clowning

[LordFall]

I think it's sweet you're hopping on the Instagram train, once you get it setup right you'll never look back. Nothing more satisfying than watching your story viewers and it's like half of the cute girls you talked to this month.

Phone number closes are like 13th-century carrier pigeons at this point.

Edited yesterday at 07:55 PM by LordFall

[Valach]

39 minutes ago, LordFall said:

I think it's sweet you're hopping on the Instagram train, once you get it setup right you'll never look back. Nothing more satisfying than watching your story viewers and it's like half of the cute girls you talked to this month.

Phone number closes are like 13th-century carrier pigeons at this point.

The advantage of a phone number is that you can call the woman. That will give her way more emotional experience and connection than seeing your stories and whatnot. Especially great if you are looking for long-term so you can screen.

Edited yesterday at 08:32 PM by Valach

[Miguel1]

6 minutes ago, Valach said:

The advantage of a phone number is that you can call the woman. That will give her way more emotional experience and connection than seeing your stories and whatnot. Especially great if you are looking for long-term so you can screen.

Not true. You can also call on IG, also video.

+ if you properly build your IG, it will be a ton of social proof and emotional stuff for the girl(s).

[Valach]

11 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Not true. You can also call on IG, also video.

+ if you properly build your IG, it will be a ton of social proof and emotional stuff for the girl(s).

I admit it is possible. But I don't think me face timing a girl for one or two hours would go as easy as simply calling. Personally I have never called anyone on IG (when I still had it) so I am not sure how responsive people are to it. I suppose it is also country dependent.

You can build IG for that yes. But assuming you genuinely want to do that and have a lifestyle for that. In my opinion it is not worth having social media for that. But I understand people's view differ on social media.

Edited yesterday at 08:45 PM by Valach

[LordFall]

Social media is the most powerful tool we have today to have an impact on reality as an individual. 

[Valach]

3 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Social media is the most powerful tool we have today to have an impact on reality as an individual. 

Perhaps. But we are talking here about curating it to meet woman. Not on some global impact thing.

Edited yesterday at 08:59 PM by Valach

[LordFall]

20 hours ago, Valach said:

Perhaps. But we are talking here about curating it to meet woman. Not on some global impact thing.

Yeah I think every man should do that. Having a good profile that comes across well can be done in 1 week.

I would recommend going out with friends or hiring a photographer and taking good pictures in nice locations across your city. Rooftop bars, hotel lobbies, an iconic downtown street, etc.

Also archive the posts that are too old and don't represent your brand well. Blurry pic drinking in college, random memes, posts with you not in it, past interests that aren't on brand anymore, etc.

Being able to exchange Instagrams with all the women you meet and come across as a cool guy they wanna get to know further is a no brainer in terms of dating strategy. 

Edited 5 hours ago by LordFall

[Valach]

2 hours ago, LordFall said:

Yeah I think every man should do that. Having a good profile that comes across well can be done in 1 week.

I would recommend going out with friends or hiring a photographer and taking good pictures in nice locations across your city. Rooftop bars, hotel lobbies, an iconic downtown street, etc.

Also archive the posts that are too old and don't represent your brand well. Blurry pic drinking in college, random memes, posts with you not in it, past interests that aren't on brand anymore, etc.

Being able to exchange Instagrams with all the women you meet and come across as a cool guy they wanna get to know further is a no brainer in terms of dating strategy. 

Not to be condescending, but at this point of my development, my ideal partner (if I even was seeking one) would probably not be active on social media, so creating IG for that does not really align with my goals and values (but again, I don't have any in the dating rn so who knows what is to come).

It might be useful for your "normie" PUA, no doubt as longs as you do not sacrifice your authenticity and health for it.

Edited 2 hours ago by Valach

[Miguel1]

9 minutes ago, Valach said:

Not to be condescending, but at this point of my development, my ideal partner (if I even was seeking one) would probably not be active on social media, so creating IG for that does not really align with my goals and values (but again, I don't have any in the dating rn so who knows what is to come).

It might be useful for your "normie" PUA, no doubt as longs as you do not sacrifice your authenticity and health for it.

Fair point.

But there are def some really high quality girls who check social media once in a while.

Your standard of never being on social media is too strict I believe, even thought I understand where you’re coming from.

I also have extremely high standards as of today.

[Valach]

6 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

Fair point.

But there are def some really high quality girls who check social media once in a while.

Your standard of never being on social media is too strict I believe, even thought I understand where you’re coming from.

I also have extremely high standards as of today.

I am quite extreme in this regard. I view social media as very unhealthy for the human mind. Basically on the same level as regular drugs. So I refuse to have them even if it means that I will not be geting with that many woman.

With that being said I did delete my social media somewhere in the middle of my PUA journey and I did not notice any downturn of how many dates I would be getting. My profile was not super good of course but still. Had plenty of responsivness just with plain numbers.

Edited 2 hours ago by Valach

[Miguel1]

@Valach Got it. If your social media sucked then it would not help much.

Also, depends on when you deleted it. It’s way more important now than 10 years ago,

[Valach]

Just now, Miguel1 said:

@Valach Got it. If your social media sucked then it would not help much.

Also, depends on when you deleted it. It’s way more important now than 10 years ago,

About 2-3 years ago.

[LordFall]

If you know yourself and you're satisfied with the results it gets you then more power to you.

I would definitely recommend most men to have an active presence on social media. It can help your business and career goals as well. Overall it gives you massive leverage for the little time it takes to learn how to use it effectively.

Edited 57 minutes ago by LordFall

[Miguel1]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

If you know yourself and you're satisfied with the results it gets you then more power to you.

I would definitely recommend most men to have an active presence on social media. It can help your business and career goals as well. Overall it gives you massive leverage for the time it takes to learn how to use it effectively.

Yep. The career aspect is also key.

I mostly create, I don’t consume much. And if I do, it is mostly to get inspiration and to study content creation and the algorithm.

Edited 1 hour ago by Miguel1