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Free Palestine People Hate Ed Sheeran Now

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17 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

prohibiting a performance committed a legally actionable violation of constitutional rights.

No one has the obligation to do business with you if they dislike your political opinions. That is not a violation of the Constitution.

The violation happens when government officials punish you for speech.

In fact, businesses make celebrities sign morality clauses, which punish the celebrity for being immoral in public.

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10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No one has the obligation to do business with you if they dislike your political opinions. That is not a violation of the Constitution.

The violation happens when government officials punish you for speech.

In fact, businesses make celebrities sign morality clauses, which punish the celebrity for being immoral in public.

The core argument of the Section 1983 lawsuit would be that the public stadium authority committed viewpoint discrimination, which is a severe violation of the First Amendment. The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that when a government entity opens a facility for public use (like renting out a stadium for entertainment), it cannot deny access or cancel an event based entirely on the political viewpoint of the performer.


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12 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

The core argument of the Section 1983 lawsuit would be that the public stadium authority committed viewpoint discrimination, which is a severe violation of the First Amendment. The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that when a government entity opens a facility for public use (like renting out a stadium for entertainment), it cannot deny access or cancel an event based entirely on the political viewpoint of the performer.

A venue has to give a platform to a Nazi? I think not.


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12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

A venue has to give a platform to a Nazi? I think not.

In a court of law it takes more than name-calling to present an argument.  The Sheeran Group could have gotten an injunction to provide for the Macklemore performance in the tax-funded stadiums, but not the Gillette stadium which was privately funded.   


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9 hours ago, Recursoinominado said:

As if good arguments could change the minds of most people. Good luck trying to reason with zionists/nazis. 

As Leo says, people are survival machines; they have to feel where it hurts, not in their logical brains, but in their pockets and egos.

I’ll give you that. Logic doesn’t always work when people are that attached to their beliefs. Sometimes they only care when it hits their ego or wallet. But there’s a difference between consequences and just hurting people for the sake of it.

 

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9 hours ago, Willy Phallicus said:

Yeah when you have your own thoughts and opinions you run the risk of aggravating some hate mongering cult. 

You gotta pick a side to let everyone know whose team your on.  A) palestine or B) israel.

I want option C.  Fuck em both.

Option C sounds about right. I’m not picking a team just because people demand one. I can think both sides are wrong without joining the fan club.

 

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9 hours ago, Basman said:

We live now in a media environment that is much more politicized than when Ed Sheeran first became big. He's part of a dying breed of mainstream entertainment and thinks you can just impartial your way through. It must be culture shock for him. 

You could say that you shouldn't have to deal with political fans but that's just reality now. 

I get it. But if staying out of politics is suddenly a political statement, we’ve officially lost the plot. He’s a musician. Let him make music without turning every song into a referendum.

 

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8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Lol.

This is such a nothing-burger.

Ed Sheeran's opinion on Gaza makes zero difference.

Such performative moralism.

Exactly. It’s a pop star, not the fucking president. People really need to calm down

 

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8 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

It looks like Ed Sheeran was dragged into this controversy.  It wasn’t entirely within his control.  He should have just stayed silent rather than give a speech from a teleprompter written by professionals.   He was way over his head.

The more interesting issue is that the tax-funded stadiums that participated in prohibiting a performance committed a legally actionable violation of constitutional rights.   

This does raise awareness as to the extent that the Epstein class controls entertainment.

I agree he got dragged into it. But the Epstein class part is a pretty big leap. One thing doesn’t automatically prove the other.

 

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You can't win with hysterics by debating them or by backing down; subconsciously their egos want to feel persecuted or like they're on a crusade. This is the real agenda.
You have to tell them to fuck off/snub them.

 

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Musk reacted the right way when the Disney boss tried to blackmail him.


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Its weird because I thought he was speaking mainly against what the Israeli government did. Probably each camp always thinks that it has not been heard enough. What did you want him to say differently? 

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34 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

You can't win with hysterics by debating them or by backing down; subconsciously their egos want to feel persecuted or like they're on a crusade. This is the real agenda.
You have to tell them to fuck off/snub them.

 

Great comment 

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33 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Musk reacted the right way when the Disney boss tried to blackmail him.

Yes

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33 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

What did you want him to say differently? 

Nothing. He said what he wanted to say. People just wanted him to say it in a way that made them feel validated.

 

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Musk reacted like an 8 year old child.

"Bribe me with money?"

Musk bribes everyone around him with money.


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well hes the richest guy ofc he wont be bribed by money 😂
thats like trying to bribe the ocean with water.
to bribe must you gotta give him political power

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26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Musk reacted like an 8 year old child.

"Bribe me with money?"

Sometimes 8-year-olds are right; they have far less conditioning and a very strong metabolism.

26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Musk bribes everyone around him with money.

The concept of hypocrisy is a judgment external to the realities of power dynamics.

He uses his money to seize power because it serves his agenda, yet refuses to let the same thing be done to him for that very reason.

You eat ribeye steaks and swat mosquitoes that bother you in the summer, even though you wouldn't want a giant doing the same to you.

 


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7 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

You eat ribeye steaks and swat mosquitoes that bother you in the summer, even though you wouldn't want a giant doing the same to you.

The key difference is I don't buy elections.


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