The Legend of Zelda Remake Discussion

[Cubbage]

26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The story in Zelda games is so uninteresting to me that I don't even regard them as having stories.

Frankly, I do not like Zelda games because I do not enjoy solving puzzles and the story and characters are all uninteresting and childish.

I never play video games for story, because if I wanted great story, I would read a book or watch a serious film. Even most film stories are poor. Video games are not a good medium for story-telling. There is no video game that I love because its story is so good.

Majora's Mask I did not play because it was obviously a quick and cheap asset flip, not a proper sequel.

I understand why you guys love it, but my tastes are different.

 

[Cubbage]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You are the guy who is thrilled by the story in a porno

When I play an open world game, I skip all the story. Because game developers are not good writers and do not know how to write good stories. Asking for a good story from a game developer is like asking for fine dining from McDonalds.

What is the worst part of Skyrim? Its main story. It is so bad that I don't even care. Skyrim would be better without a story at all.

This I totally agree with. Bethesda are shit at writing a story and God-like at engineering game worlds.

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Cubbage said:

and God-like at engineering game worlds.

Whoa! Let's not go that far.

[Leo Gura]

How can saving a princess for the dozenth time be a good story?

As soon as I hear of a princess that needs saving, I stop caring.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[kavaris]

Yall want us to make the next hype game? Is that wat its coming to? Jk. Im joking somewhat, as i simply dont have the patience, right now. But if it involves just me doing the windowing and text, and yous do the rest (which even that is still too much work to continue from) its like, i dont know if i have the patience, even being paid, as its not bout money for me. I just have to have like, not chaos around me, And then ill move mountains.

[Cubbage]

@Leo Gura I find it fascinating how much peak artistic material within video game storytelling you are missing out on that intersects with all of your work *cough* DEUS EX, MAJORA'S MASK, SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS, JOURNEY, PATHOLOGIC 1 & 2, FALLOUT (THE ONES THAT AREN'T SHITE), UNDERTALE, TRANSISTOR, SOMA, SILENT HILL 2 <aD iNfIniTuM>

😶‍🌫️

Your peculiar taste never ceases to intrigue me, this is why we love you cause you reallg are a fookehn enigma 🍻 

[Cubbage]

Just now, kavaris said:

Yall want us to make the next hype game? Is that wat its coming to? Jk. Im joking somewhat, as i simply dont have the patience, right now. But if it involves just me doing the windowing and text, and yous do the rest (which even that is still too much work to continue from) its like, i dont know if i have the patience, even being paid, as its not bout money for me. I just have to have like, not chaos around me, And then ill move mountains.

I'm working on a game right now hopefully it will deliver what we're all after (it won't)

[Juan]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

How can saving a princess for the dozenth time be a good story?

As soon as I hear of a princess that needs saving, I stop caring.

I summon reverse UNO card!

 

[Cubbage]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Whoa! Let's not go that far.

Morrowind defo but after that... demi-God and then demiurge 🤣

[kavaris]

Just now, Cubbage said:

I'm working on a game right now hopefully it will deliver what we're all after (it won't)

Oh. is that way yous were talkin bout. im just joining the thread, So all i know is Zelda was involved; Alas, are you making the game? Like making-making a game?

[kavaris]

4 minutes ago, Cubbage said:

I'm working on a game right now hopefully it will deliver what we're all after (it won't)

Let me just sorta point out, im also the wrong person to have any opinion, cause i technically am not in pursuit of any one idea, so all of my opinions are in areas that are like, borderline dream behavior and things that are like "The character lives inside himself, meeting versions of himself, and solves riddles in like, materialized forms of...", You know .. weird things... probably

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Cubbage said:

Morrowind defo but after that... demi-God and then demiurge 🤣

In God's immortal words: It just works

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, Cubbage said:

@Leo Gura I find it fascinating how much peak artistic material within video game storytelling you are missing out on that intersects with all of your work *cough* DEUS EX, MAJORA'S MASK, SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS, JOURNEY, PATHOLOGIC 1 & 2, FALLOUT (THE ONES THAT AREN'T SHITE), UNDERTALE, TRANSISTOR, SOMA, SILENT HILL 2 <aD iNfIniTuM>

😶‍🌫️

Your peculiar taste never ceases to intrigue me, this is why we love you cause you reallg are a fookehn enigma 🍻 

I have noticed that there are two types of gamers: those who play games for story, and those who don't. I am the second type.

To me, games are about strategy, action, and world, not story. I have never liked story-centric games, even if they are technically well-made.

When you say, "This game has a great story", that does not make me any more interested in playing that game. I have to like everything else about it first to want to play it. If a game is fun, it doesn't need a story.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Cubbage]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I have noticed that there are two types of gamers: those who play games for story, and those who don't. I am the second type.

To me, games are about strategy, action, and world, not story. I have never liked story-centric games, even if they are technically well-made.

When you say, "This game has a great story", that does not make me any more interested in playing that game.

Then there's me who likes both 🥸

[Cubbage]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

In God's immortal words: It just works

I truly hate that I share the same last name as the devil incarnate 🤣👹

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Cubbage said:

I truly hate that I share the same last name as the devil incarnate 🤣👹

It is annoying that my favorite video game was made by Todd Howard. Life is so ironic like that

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[kavaris]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I have noticed that there are two types of gamers: those who play games for story, and those who don't. I am the second type.

To me, games are about strategy, action, and world, not story....

Thats knda interstin. Ive not really thought about it as two categories like that, which youd think would be onvious, i guess thats a new one, that id have to think bout myself (i havent played games recently, but i think in a way that is gamish and still has relevance, for me, i believe)

[Leo Gura]

I replayed Stardew Valley recently, and that game has barely any story, but it's a perfect game otherwise.

You can have a great game with no story. You can have a great story with no game. But you cannot have a great game with only a great story. Which demonstrates that story is not the essence of games.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Cubbage]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It is annoying that my favorite video game was made by Todd Howard. Life is so ironic like that

Innit just 🤓

[kavaris]

Oh heres somethin i noticed in certain mediums, games... for anything rather.... And granted, its edging towards a technical way to view games... And everything else...

But i think it matters, to me atleast, in the right way to think bout the base line of like... "What drives you"

And thats how everything has a rhythm, a heart beat to it — Not necessarily in the soundtrack, cause, obviously there are times where its just sound effect / or nothing, And then there are times where its like, a single sustained chord... however.

, the content it self has a rhythmic pulse, like if it wasnt for the visuals performing that *gathered rhythm*, there would be no sense to it, like it would be that "single sustained chord" i mentioned, which doesnt have a pulse you can follow, And... maybe its just me... I just seem to be noticing that the visuals, atleast in the most playable games, it takes the place of the rhythm, the beat, and keeps the game 

like ... Iuno how to explain it... because its borderline musical, mystical, its like, how to write a song in a visual way, with repetitious elements you can follow