Zen LaCroix

Is this the art of learning game from the beginning

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 You see the girl. You have all these thoughts like I have no idea what to say. They could be rude to me. I could get humiliated.

You don't want the people around you to see you approach. You feel nervous. You feel like that girl won't be interested in you. 

You make yourself do it anyway. Generally within seconds. If you wait any longer than a few seconds then usually the approach isn't getting done. So you throw yourself in there and your brain comes up with something to say. And you just do that over and over. You get into a flow state after back to back interactions and then those thoughts dissappear for a while.

 At some point something might throw you off like a harsh rejection or the girl's friend that you didn't meet yet comes in with a different vibe and it effects you. And now some of those thoughts can come back so you have to remember keep doing what you were doing. Keep approaching.

Later you evaluate what you did well and what you can improve and focus on making those improvements next time.

You become more resilient overtime and are emotionally unaffected. And you know what to do and say and how to carry yourself in these interactions due to throwing yourself in so many times.

Is this how game is learned.

I've watched so many videos from youtube and paid products and I understand the theory but when I go out and see a girl or a group of girls I'm still like I don't know what to say.

A part of me almost knows this is how its done but I'd be curious if there's any more too it. Will our brain learn what to say and how to respond just by putting ourselves in those situations a lot and analyzing what we did right and what we did wrong.

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@Zen LaCroix Yes that's basically it. But it is even easier, learning game is just about approaching women in big quantities consistently. 

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@Zen LaCroix just go out there and do it and don´t think, this is all overthinking. It is better to say `brocolli` then to say nothing at all, I have helped some guys and they always come with the same excuse that they don´t know what to say, just say anything, literally, any approach is better then no approach, I have opened with `I am your uber driver` horrible approach, but it doesn´t matter, anything is better then nothing, any approach is a win compared to no approach at all, let go of perfection. 

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lol im in London atm and having this exact approach anxiety


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@Ulax The thing is approach anxiety only goes away by getting into a flow state of doing approaches. 

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Just now, Majed said:

@Ulax The thing is approach anxiety only goes away by getting into a flow state of doing approaches. 

I get you. I struggle to approach at all when I'm solo.


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@Ulax What i've realized is that solo is way better than with people, solo you can go around freely looking for girls to approach, you don't have to drag your friend with you all the time.

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@Majed Same. With wings feels way more artificial to me. 


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@Ulax Unless you have experienced puas with you, going out with friends will tend to worsen your results. I went out with my friend last saturday, and what a mistake, the whole night he did 1 approach lmao which lasted a couple of seconds, i did like 13 approaches. 

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1 minute ago, Majed said:

@Ulax Unless you have experienced puas with you, going out with friends will tend to worsen your results. I went out with my friend last saturday, and what a mistake, the whole night he did 1 approach lmao which lasted a couple of seconds, i did like 13 approaches. 

I wouldn't mind friends but I found my previous friends were insecure and got judgmental about me approaching.


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@Ulax

1 minute ago, Ulax said:

I wouldn't mind friends but I found my previous friends were insecure and got judgmental about me approaching.

100%. They will get judgemental about you for approaching women, my friend last saturday night, started telling me we're like beggars for approaching women. And shit like you paid money to enjoy your night, not to pick up girls, etc... Thinking that i'll enjoy my night more listening to music on the bar rather than approaching girls lmao.

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5 minutes ago, Majed said:

@Ulax

100%. They will get judgemental about you for approaching women, my friend last saturday night, started telling me we're like beggars for approaching women. And shit like you paid money to enjoy your night, not to pick up girls, etc... Thinking that i'll enjoy my night more listening to music on the bar rather than approaching girls lmao.

Olympic level coping from them hahaha


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@Ulax you need a good wingmen, guys that have experience and not your friends, they only bring you down and be insecure as hell, a good wingmen is on your level or above you, not below you, although you also learn from helping absolute beginners, but they have to be willing voluntarily, not your friends who don't care enough about it anyways. 

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@Olaf A good wingmen is worth their weight in gold


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@Olaf Luckily I have some new wings through Todd V's Unfiltered Tour


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@Ulax Nice, I think there are quite a few people approaching in London, there must be some good wingmen out there

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@Olaf Bro there are so many in central London. Its so funny. I literally have dudes take my sets in daygame by outwalking me there first 


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