How do you properly take N,N-DMT?

[ROOBIO]

Hey, 

What is the best way to administer N,N-DMT? Is it smoking, snorting or boofing (if possible). If you can boof it do you need a specific configuration of the DMT?

Thanks 

Edited yesterday at 07:54 AM by ROOBIO

[Meeksauce]

1 hour ago, ROOBIO said:

Hey, 

What is the best way to administer N,N-DMT? Is it smoking, snorting or boofing (if possible). If you can boof it do you need a specific configuration of the DMT?

Thanks 

Basically there's two versions of nn-dmt, salt and freebase, freebase is for vaporizing and salt is for soft tissue absorption (snorting, boofing). If you're going freebase there's a few options, I usually go with carts because they're most convenient, but if you prefer to get everything in one hit to bypass some of the come up anxiety you can just weigh out your freebase dose and sprinkle it in a bong on top of some weed so the powder doesn't fall through - just be aware this method can be harsher on your lungs and the smoke is much harder to hold in. I've heard of people using crack pipes and vaporizers if you can't handle holding in weed smoke for 15 seconds. If you wanted to boof, I'm sure it would be way stronger and cleaner as the mucosal tissue there is much more bioavailable than smoking for any drug - I haven't tried it, but what you want to do with any substance is dissolve your dose in a small amount of water (in the ballpark of 2-10ml depending on dose), collect in a syringe and then anchors away. Leo has a vid on that somewhere if you want to get technical. Just make sure you understand Salt = boof and Freebase = smoke so you don't injure yourself.

[ROOBIO]

32 minutes ago, Meeksauce said:

Basically there's two versions of nn-dmt, salt and freebase, freebase is for vaporizing and salt is for soft tissue absorption (snorting, boofing). If you're going freebase there's a few options, I usually go with carts because they're most convenient, but if you prefer to get everything in one hit to bypass some of the come up anxiety you can just weigh out your freebase dose and sprinkle it in a bong on top of some weed so the powder doesn't fall through - just be aware this method can be harsher on your lungs and the smoke is much harder to hold in. I've heard of people using crack pipes and vaporizers if you can't handle holding in weed smoke for 15 seconds. If you wanted to boof, I'm sure it would be way stronger and cleaner as the mucosal tissue there is much more bioavailable than smoking for any drug - I haven't tried it, but what you want to do with any substance is dissolve your dose in a small amount of water (in the ballpark of 2-10ml depending on dose), collect in a syringe and then anchors away. Leo has a vid on that somewhere if you want to get technical. Just make sure you understand Salt = boof and Freebase = smoke so you don't injure yourself.

Thanks, appreciate it. 

Okay, cool. If you were to do it with cartridges and vaporizers, are you going to have to take multiple hits to break through? I've heard online that people say you should take one to two hits, or three hits, obviously depending on the dosages, and actually get the full experience.

If you were to do it the other way, then you went any way to do it without weed? 

Also, what happens when you smoke it? You just knock out a cold and go to sleep, or you have to close your eyes, or do you just stay awake if it's not strong enough? 

[Meeksauce]

17 hours ago, ROOBIO said:

Thanks, appreciate it. 

Okay, cool. If you were to do it with cartridges and vaporizers, are you going to have to take multiple hits to break through? I've heard online that people say you should take one to two hits, or three hits, obviously depending on the dosages, and actually get the full experience.

If you were to do it the other way, then you went any way to do it without weed? 

Also, what happens when you smoke it? You just knock out a cold and go to sleep, or you have to close your eyes, or do you just stay awake if it's not strong enough? 

I think it's very batch dependent, but I have a very high tolerance to all substances so it usually takes me 5-6 good tokes to break through. Basically I just keep going until I physically can't anymore (takes some commitment lol). I think 3 is a pretty good rough estimate for most people though, none of my friends have ever broken through on less than that. Obviously a breakthrough is something you want to work up to though, don't jump straight into the deep end.

 

Crack pipe/vaporizer is definitely preferable to bong method, but it still works if you have stoner lungs. As far as keeping your eyes open/closed, I always close them as soon as I exhale the last hit just because of the intensity but I also have friends that tweak if they close their eyes. Also if you press on your closed eyes fairly hard you get way more visuals, I'm not sure why but this can give you visuals even when you're not on any psychedelic. My theory is that the visual tracers some people see as they're falling asleep is just dmt being released in very small amounts - they both have the exact same dark neon, translucent quality.

[Leo Gura]

Orally, in a vitamin capsule with pure harmala extract 30 mins before, also in vitamin capsule.

Vaping DMT is painful, imprecise, wasteful, and too short-lasting.

Edited 4 hours ago by Leo Gura

[PolyPeter]

19 hours ago, ROOBIO said:

Hey, 

What is the best way to administer N,N-DMT? Is it smoking, snorting or boofing (if possible). If you can boof it do you need a specific configuration of the DMT?

Thanks 

hey, I smoked changa from a bong many times, somehow i can't relate to people saying it hurts. what hurts is the complete obliteration of the ego. which is metaphysical. 100mg of the blend usually has about 30 to 40% of N, N-DMT. which is enough dmt to, remove the entire filter, for about 6 minutes in human time. 

[Leo Gura]

Holding a full dose of DMT in the lungs stings like a bitch.

[Davino]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Vaping DMT is painful, imprecise, wasteful, and too short-lasting.

I disagree. 

Vaping in a pen is 0 painful. It's more precise in the qualitative sense (not on the quantitative sense). Not that wasteful in terms of rates of absorption really, but the view can be that if your measuring stick is with harmala which extends and potentiates the experience. On too short lasting that's true, but with vaping you can easily redose.

[Davino]

If you're just starting with psychedelics probably pharmahuasca is the easiest way to go (due to the cost entry of learning all the vape tech, although if that is done, it's usually more of a friendly gradual experience) and with low to medium dosages. 

[Joseph Maynor]

You guys want a friendly experience with DMT lol.  

[Leo Gura]

58 minutes ago, Davino said:

I disagree. 

Vaping in a pen is 0 painful. It's more precise in the qualitative sense (not on the quantitative sense). Not that wasteful in terms of rates of absorption really, but the view can be that if your measuring stick is with harmala which extends and potentiates the experience. On too short lasting that's true, but with vaping you can easily redose.

I don't like DMT pen because it is too weak and you have to keep redosing constantly.

Better to take a pill and trip for 2hrs straight without hassle.

The DMT pen is good for playing around.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[ROOBIO]

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't like DMT pen because it is too weak and you have to keep redosing constantly.

Better to take a pill and trip for 2hrs straight without hassle.

Is this with freebase or salt version?

And you trip for 2 hours? 

Is this safe for the first time you do DMT?

Edited 2 hours ago by ROOBIO

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, ROOBIO said:

Is this with freebase or salt version?

Either will work.

Freebase is fine.

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And you trip for 2 hours?

Pretty much. If your stomach is empty. On a full stomach it can last 6hrs+, but it will be mild.

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Is this safe for the first time you do DMT?

It's no more dangerous than taking mushrooms.

Just don't overdo the dose.

Once you find your right dose, it's very consistent and precise.

Edited 46 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[Joseph Maynor]

You guys don't know what it like to do DMT.  

[ROOBIO]

20 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You guys don't know what it like to do DMT.  

Enlighten us Mr Maynor