Solipsism question

[Inliytened1]

@Breakingthewall Don't be fooled.  See, reality is always wanting to fool you.  But all you need to do is connect with your direct experience of what is actual - what is here right now.  That is all that exists.

[Yimpa]

Infinity is so F’ing profound that you cannot even reduce it to solipsism. Solipsism is one possibility out of INFINITE possibilities Consciousness can imagine.

WOW.

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Breakingthewall Don't be fooled.  See, reality is always wanting to fool you.  But all you need to do is connect with your direct experience of what is actual - what is here right now.  That is all that exists.

Why it's a all that exists? That logic makes no sense 

[Inliytened1]

15 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Why it's a all that exists? That logic makes no sense 

This isn't logic.  This is jut what is about actual.  It's here.  It before you. It's right here!

Its right here. But we just wanna look elsewhere.  Guess our dicks aren't big enough

 

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

This isn't logic.  This is jut what is about actual.  It's here.  It before you. It's right here!

Its right here. But we just wanna look elsewhere.  Guess our dicks aren't big enough

 

Yeah we should believe the word right? If that's ok for you, that's good. 

[Inliytened1]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yeah we should believe the word right? If that's ok for you, that's good. 

what do you mean what word?  The word of christ? fuck that, I'm just saying there's God

[Breakingthewall]

26 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

what do you mean what word?  The word of christ? fuck that, I'm just saying there's God

The word that tells that only your experience exist. You have to believe right? Because you can't know it

[Mellowmarsh]

13 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Because you can't know it

U can’t know U because you are U

 

To know would imply a claimer. Who owns the U inverse ?

[Inliytened1]

24 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The word that tells that only your experience exist. You have to believe right? Because you can't know it

That's a really, really good question.  No, you just know this inneffably.  Because of your intelligence.  A dog cannot understand enlighenment, sadly, nor can a rabbit.  But you can.

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[Mellowmarsh]

25 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Because you can't know it

There’s no claimer, to claim is to know - who knows? 
 

No one/ know one. Okay. 

[Breakingthewall]

17 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

U can’t know U because you are U

 

To know would imply a claimer. Who owns the U inverse ?

You can know, it's simple: look within, empty your mind, forget phenomena and definitions, enter a mental state where nothing means anything, forget meaning, be in absolute silence.

Then you will perceive only existence, but a closed existence. Remain in that non-definition, in that clear mind, and find the subject-object structure. If you look at it directly, it collapses quickly, in minutes.

There is no longer subject-object, there is reality. This reality manifests as flat, nothing. Remain there without interpreting. Then it opens, it manifests as what it is, what lives, what is total potential. that is you, and it is absolutely obvious.

There is no separation between you and reality; you are reality. It is indefinable; it is what it is. Your heart opens, and your mind too; the separation has dissolved. 

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

There is no separation between you and reality; you are reality. It is indefinable; it is what it is. Your heart opens, and your mind too; the separation has dissolved. 

You cannot know you because you are you.

To know you - you would have to split into two, into knower and known, but as you’ve already explained above, there is no separation there between the knower and the known. You’ve said it differently that’s all. You’ve said there’s no separation between you and reality. We’re saying the same thing, just differently. 

[Mellowmarsh]

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then you will perceive only existence, but a closed existence. Remain in that non-definition, in that clear mind, and find the subject-object structure. If you look at it directly, it collapses quickly, in minutes.

Who knows? 
Answer: No one/ Know one. Same difference. Okay.

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

You cannot know you because you are you.

To know you - you would have to split into two, into knower and known, but as you’ve already explained above, there is no separation there between the knower and the known. You’ve said it differently that’s all. You’ve said there’s no separation between you and reality. We’re saying the same thing, just differently. 

Well, there is something that transcends that.  Just pure magic.  A level of consicousness where you fully understand not only yourself, but all of reality.  Which of course, ultimately, is one.  But there is a state where you can grasp it all, including yourself.  The problem i have with neo-advaita is it seems to restrain reality in some sort of way.

[Joseph Maynor]

What are you guys confused about solipsism?

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Well, there is something that transcends that.  Just pure magic.  A level of consicousness where you fully understand not only yourself, but all of reality.  Which of course, ultimately, is one.  But there is a state where you can grasp it all, including yourself.  The problem i have with neo-advaita is it seems to restrain reality in some sort of way.

The problem is even more shocking, which is that which appears to transcend, never transcended.
Just hear that, and don’t try to grasp it. 

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

What are you guys confused about solipsism?

I think we need clarrity.  Bringing in Solipsist #1. 

Mellow take it away

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

I think we need clarrity.  Bringing in Solipsist #1. 

Mellow take it away

I don't know.  I might feel like more clarity is the problem lol.

[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

What are you guys confused about solipsism?

There’s no confusion. It’s not a “ someone “ who knows. You already are the knowing that cannot be known.

 

That’s solipsism. 

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I don't know.  I might feel like more clarity is the problem lol.

SHe gets shy when I call her out

Maybe she likes me.