Talking on a Date with normie girls about spiritual topics. Experience?

[OBEler]

Have some of you on your first dates come up with some spiritual topics ? Like about chacra or astral projection, or psychedelics, deep meditation whatsoever? If not why? If so how has the girl reacted in the aftermath?

I for myself have mixed experiences. I can get quickly attention on that topic, normal girls with a bit of religious background are very fast interested if I tell them about spiritual experiences like astral traveling or near death experience. However when I go deeper into it and begin to talk about reality and illusion and explain them some new perspectives etc they become scared. At the end when I brought these heavy topics up even If I stay calm and easy, I get the feeling I loose attraction with that. They cant grasp it and get more serious, not flirty anymore. 

What are your experiences?

 

Edited 28 minutes ago by OBEler

[LordFall]

Yes most people don't like ambiguity and fair enough it's quite scary. Much more appealing to get a worldview in a box like mainstream religions.

I've done it a few times but mostly for mild topics like meditations and sometimes psychedelics.

10 minutes ago, OBEler said:

At the end when I brought these heavy topics up even If I stay calm and easy, I get the feeling I loose attraction with that. I think these topics are for normies too weird and normal women (like men) dont like weird stuff, it makes them feel bad.

I think with good reason, what exactly is your purpose for bringing heavy topics on a first date? It's not really a spiritual thing, people don't tend to do that in general and repeatedly bring up like starving children in Africa on first dates. Some people do like bleeding heart leftists and to be fair it'll heavily screen out people that aren't super passionate about these topics but for me it's not a top priority. In my mind overly spiritual people are using it more as a coping mechanism for being unsuccessful in real life rather than being actual deep thinkers so I would be likely to be turned off if a girl was particularly new agey. I don't mean successful like make a lot of money but even being a responsible, dependable and consistent adult that's ready for a healthy relationship is often times lacking in those circles in MY personal experience. 

Also most people are not intellectuals they don't enjoy discussing abstract concepts, they deal more in tangibles. If are heavily involved in your business/career in a spiritual industry that would be one thing but if you just like the videos and enjoy discussing it then it's a whole other thing. 

Edited 1 hour ago by LordFall

[enchanted]

1 hour ago, OBEler said:

Have some of you on your first dates come up with some spiritual topics ? Like about chacra or astral projection, or psychedelics, deep meditation whatsoever? If not why? If so how has the girl reacted in the aftermath?

I for myself have mixed experiences. I can get quickly attention on that topic, normal girls with a bit of religious background are very fast interested if I tell them about spiritual experiences like astral traveling or near death experience. However when I go deeper into it and begin to talk about reality and illusion and explain them some new perspectives etc they become scared. At the end when I brought these heavy topics up even If I stay calm and easy, I get the feeling I loose attraction with that. They cant grasp it and get more serious, not flirty anymore. 

What are your experiences?

 

No dude, do not take actualized.org teachings to the real world. Leo even says it himself. To attract a woman you have to create a beautiful narrative (i.e fiction) of why they should date you, not beat them over the head with the truth! Nothing will get a womans vagina dryer than a know-it-all douchebag with a YouTube philosophy/spiritual diploma from actualized.org. sorry lol

Leo's teaches the highest truths that for most of humanity has been banned for the common people. We at actualized.org have seeked this information out and have adjusted to its radical ideas but you can't expect normal people to accept it. It's way too heavy stuff.  You will just sound like a flat eather or a real life matrix fan. 

Edited 42 minutes ago by enchanted

[PenguinPablo]

I think mostly it's about the embodiment more than anything. 

Certain women find that deeply mysterious and intoxicating.

I think talking about it though is too much for most people -- especially the most radical spiritual ideas because of the metaphysical and spiritual implications.

Better for her to feel like you're from another universe than to see what's under the hood.

 

Edited 35 minutes ago by PenguinPablo

[Miguel1]

26 minutes ago, PenguinPablo said:

Better for her to feel like you're from another universe than to see what's under the hood.

This is key insight. This way she can rationalize in your favour.

If you logically explain the truth, she has no way to rationalize in your favour.

And to answer OP’s original question, what happens when you bring these topics to your normie friends and family? Why would it be any different with girls?