I know what Coral is

[Bashar]

It's so simple. Idk why y'all consider it controversial. It's obvious.

Here's what i said in a convo earlier:

"I would also speculate Coral might be more ego actually. Turquoise is becoming aware of ur divinity and oneness. But that's kind of conformity. Recognizing the sameness in all.

Everyone's a unique piece of the puzzle. You have more richness and god realizing itself more fully by being maximally different. But that can only be done properly and non-egoistically after being turquoise.

 

When i take acid, i become more aware of what makes me unique. It feels paradoxical. I feel i channel my higher self, god, yet im more different and unique than ever."

[Osaid]

It's so interesting that some random person can invent a concept and then people run around trying to figure out what it is. I guess it's for the "usefulness" of it, but is there?

[vibv]

17 minutes ago, Osaid said:

It's so interesting that some random person can invent a concept and then people run around trying to figure out what it is. I guess it's for the "usefulness" of it, but is there?

That's how we do Magic. Giving things & concepts meaning out of thin air. That's what it means to be Human.

And we haven't even started yet; still doing it unconsciously.

Completely realizing that is what becoming Coral means  

Turquoise is classical enlightenment, but its misunderstanding lies in the fact, that it still thinks that would be the end, when it is merely the beginning of the real journey.

Edited 58 minutes ago by vibv

[LordFall]

22 minutes ago, Osaid said:

It's so interesting that some random person can invent a concept and then people run around trying to figure out what it is. I guess it's for the "usefulness" of it, but is there?

I think looking at it as an "invented concept" misses the point of what frameworks like Spiral Dynamics are actually doing. Original researchers like Clare Graves were trying to map out an objective, shared reality of human development. They were pointing to evolutionary patterns in consciousness that escape most people in ordinary states of awareness.

By studying self-actualization and doing the actual practice, we’re able to tap into the exact same terrain those researchers discovered for themselves, rather than just playing with words. I myself find the spiral dynamics model incredibly useful for me in understanding the ways other humans think because I often fall into the trap of thinking everyone thinks the same way as me. 

[Osaid]

10 minutes ago, vibv said:

That's how we do Magic. Giving things & concepts meaning out of thin air. That's what it means to be Human.

Yep. I guess it's fun in that it's mysterious and makes it seem like there's something to look for. Like an easter egg hunt between you and yourself.

[vibv]

1 minute ago, Osaid said:

Yep. I guess it's fun in that it's mysterious and makes it seem like there's something to look for. Like an easter egg hunt between you and yourself.

If I was God, there would be gold at the end of the Rainbow  ✨

[Wilhelm44]

4 hours ago, Bashar said:

"I would also speculate Coral might be more ego actually.

Like a divine personality ?

[Osaid]

4 minutes ago, LordFall said:

I think looking at it as an "invented concept" misses the point of what frameworks like Spiral Dynamics are actually doing. Original researchers like Clare Graves were trying to map out an objective, shared reality of human development. They were pointing to evolutionary patterns in consciousness that escape most people in ordinary states of awareness.

By studying self-actualization and doing the actual practice, we’re able to tap into the exact same terrain those researchers discovered for themselves, rather than just playing with words. I myself find the spiral dynamics model incredibly useful for me in understanding the ways other humans think because I often fall into the trap of thinking everyone thinks the same way as me. 

That's interesting. But still quite conceptual with all the colors and stages and what not. It is a "map" after all.

If it helped you open your mind, I don't really have anything to say about that. But my point was moreso to address the sentiment of the OP, who seems to be looking for something called "coral", but that's all within the domain of a definition that someone else invented. Now that I look it up, it looks like someone other than Graves "hypothesized" coral.

I wanted to question the usefulness of identifying with these stages in such a way, but I don't have any qualms with studying it or trying to understand how other people think.

[Osaid]

2 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Like a divine personality ?

More illusion doesn't sound very divine 

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Osaid said:

More illusion doesn't sound very divine 

Dont look so sad🙂 Im trying to figure out what he meant by coral being more ego somehow ?

[Osaid]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

Dont look so sad🙂 Im trying to figure out what he meant by coral being more ego somehow ?

Something about uniqueness

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Osaid said:

Something about uniqueness

Aha, thanks.

[vibv]

19 minutes ago, Osaid said:

More illusion doesn't sound very divine 

It's only illusion if it's unconscious. You can build a Divine Personality consciously.

That's what the Will wills. To experience itself through a finite point of view. And to do that fully we need to build Egos in a completely new way—to be used as containment systems for the energies of the Divine Dyad (Femininity & Masculinity).

That will allow us to experience Agony & Ecstasies yet not uncovered.

Edited 16 minutes ago by vibv