Sri Niagaradasti Enlightenment Story

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

Who knows that is the ego. The ego thinking that it's not real. 

A question can only arise to the sense of a separate self, where there isn’t one.

 

 

 

[Wilhelm44]

7 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I’m not sure I understand what you mean, sorry. Could you be more specific?

I guess I was going into science fiction mode and thinking, would it ever be possible for the eternal unfolding to stop ?

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

I guess I was going into science fiction mode and thinking, would it ever be possible for the eternal unfolding to stop ?

Ah, thanks for clarifying. 
Short answer, I don’t know. 
 

(Eternal) how I interpret the word to mean is an unfolding that has no known beginning or end. Think Mandelbrot. 

[Wilhelm44]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Who knows that is the ego. The ego thinking that it's not real. Making a difference between real and unreal and deciding that it's category is "unreal". All inside of the conceptual mind. 

Similarly, if you look closely, are thoughts really yours, or are they actually just happening.

[Breakingthewall]

8 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I guess I was going into science fiction mode and thinking, would it ever be possible for the eternal unfolding to stop ?

It's absolutely impossible, because "stop" is not happening, and happening is a possibility, then the break 'no happening " doesn't happen, always is happening , because "not happening " is never. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Ah, thanks for clarifying. 
Short answer, I don’t know. 
 

(Eternal) how I interpret the word to mean is an unfolding that has no known beginning or end. Think Mandelbrot. 

Wow, thanks

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Similarly, if you look closely, are thoughts really yours, or are they actually just happening.

My thoughts doesn't deny the fact of being thinking. Just trying to make a frame that makes easy the openess to what is absolutely real

[James123]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

Similarly, if you look closely, are thoughts really yours, or are they actually just happening.

Absofuckinglutely 😂 😂 😂 

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's absolutely impossible, because "stop" is not happening, and happening is a possibility, then the break 'no happening " doesn't happen, always is happening 

yeah, I guess I was thinking of something unrelated, those states they call cessations, I wonder how that works

[James123]

@Wilhelm44 good good, good for you my brother 

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Similarly, if you look closely, are thoughts really yours, or are they actually just happening.

The thoughts aren't yours, are you in the form of a thought . The process that is happening and that creates thoughts is what you are. 

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

My thoughts doesn't deny the fact of being thinking. Just trying to make a frame that makes easy the openess to what is absolutely real

To frame is to freeze what ultimately doesn’t happen, nothing is framing anything.

[Wilhelm44]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

My thoughts doesn't deny the fact of being thinking. Just trying to make a frame that makes easy the openess to what is absolutely real

Did you decide to have this thought ? Or did it just happen without any gap

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

yeah, I guess I was thinking of something unrelated, those states they call cessations, I wonder how that works

Like deep sleep, but it has no duration, it doesn't happen, like anesthesia. Happening is continuous 

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

@Wilhelm44 good good, good for you my brother 

Thank you James

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

Did you decide to have this thought ? Or did it just happen without any gap

The fact of deciding comes from a unfathomable chain of cause effect, but at the end what happens is the drive of reality to be, and being manifest in the same moment that a relationship happens, it's impossible to determine it, so at the end you are effect, but same time you are cause, like everything else

[Wilhelm44]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Like deep sleep, but it has no duration, it doesn't happen, like anesthesia. Happening is continuous 

Yeah I wonder if there's something strange going on with the brain during cessations

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Wilhelm44 said:

Yeah I wonder if there's something strange going on with the brain during cessations

I don't see the value of cessation 

[Wilhelm44]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The fact of deciding comes from a unfathomable chain of cause effect, but at the end what happens is the drive of reality to be, and being manifest in the same moment that a relationship happens, it's impossible to determine it, so at the end you are effect, but same time you are cause, like everything else

But can you really say you consciously decided to have the thought ?

[Wilhelm44]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

I don't see the value of cessation 

Yeah, maybe you right, maybe it's just like deep sleep, although I sense it's a deeper kind of reset.