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[Jirh]

12 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

What I am talking about is the inverse of idealism.  A lot of problems can be solved by talking to someone face-to-face.  Developing a real relationship with them.  

I don't think you understand relationships.

We have limited resources, namely time and energy in the context of relationships. We can't go around making friends and relationships with everyone. We gotta have some priorities and hierarchies for who gets to be close and who doesn't get recognized at all. Let alone famous people like Leo, I'm mostly talking from the regular person's pov. Anyone who's living a full life is too abundant to be seeking relationships online then turn them into real-world relationships. A full life includes real social circle, spiritual connection, hobbies, a regular job, and occasional vacations.

[Joseph Maynor]

10 hours ago, Jirh said:

I don't think you understand relationships.

We have limited resources, namely time and energy in the context of relationships. We can't go around making friends and relationships with everyone. We gotta have some priorities and hierarchies for who gets to be close and who doesn't get recognized at all. Let alone famous people like Leo, I'm mostly talking from the regular person's pov. Anyone who's living a full life is too abundant to be seeking relationships online then turn them into real-world relationships. A full life includes real social circle, spiritual connection, hobbies, a regular job, and occasional vacations.

Your point taken.  Thanks.

[Joseph Maynor]

 

[Joseph Maynor]

I think there is something missing here or someone missing here.  This happens often in artistry.  

[UnbornTao]

22 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

This effect is well documented in other domains that do not even involve "consumption" ie reading a book on epistemology, or watching a video on YouTube. The effect of having viewed something is often conflated with having understood that thing.

Speaking about plans and projects has a similar onflow effect, although in a different domain. The act of speaking about the topic, plan, or concept makes us feel we are 1) making progress toward the thing and 2) increases our own perceived understanding of the topic/plan/concept. There is also an element of fluency heuristics we use where familiar information feels easier to process - and then we mistake fluency with mastery.

It is usually not until we are questioned critically, or we critically inspect the "how, who, what, why?" of the thing that we see the holes, assumptions, inferences and logic/fallacies behind our understanding of the thing. In particular hidden assumptions - assumptions in general - are ways to strengthen an argument. They band-aid over weak points. Anyway, I digress a bit there... 

Definitely. It's a critical distinción to make. It could be boiled down to, at the risk of oversimplifying it, 'theory' vs 'practice.'

'The map is not the territory' - again, we hear this and in our minds we think we know what it is, but then there's what happens in actuality, which is usually different and inconsistent with our conception of things.