Rasheed

Doing Day Game in Small City is Demoralizing

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I am doing day game in Tbilisi. It’s quite demoralizing. 
 

i have game of an intermediate. Approach anxiety is not a problem (I have it of course to a certain degree but not to a point of being overtly debilitating since I’v done few hundred approaches at this point). When I see an attractive lady, I approach. 
 

But the problem is Tbilisi is a skmewhat small city. You can literally walk three hours and not see any attractive woman all the while if you see one, she is likely, to put it mildly, to not know English quite well.
 

It’s very demoralizing when you got game but there are simply not any women to approach (P. S. I only do day game, no night game owing to my schedule and goals.)

 

The question I wanna ask: is Tbilisi just bad city for game or am I just badly coping? 
 

I would be grateful for any advice.

 

I hear coaches say, approach 20 girls a week ,8 if you go out two-three days a week. In Tbilisi, that’s somewhat close impossible. You simply won’t see that many attractive woman to approach. And of course, I don’t approach women I am not into just to do an approach, that’s just ridiculous. 
 


 

 


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How is tbilisi a small city??? I live in the city of same size and I can't spend 5 minutes outside without seeing attractive woman.

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You have two simple options the way I see it. For the short to medium term focus on hosting events and social circle game. Then you can you'll have all the women in the region to pull from and you'll level up your status over time. Message @jacknine119 he's also from Tbilisi perhaps you can link up and throw some events together. 

The second option is medium to long term but get your income up(especially online income) and move, travel and date women from the whole world. That takes more work but is the best option that will solve most of your life problems. You can start by building an Instagram and personal brand which will help your dating even in Georgia but as you learn to monetize it then the whole world opens up to you. 


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13 minutes ago, Valach said:

How is tbilisi a small city??? I live in the city of same size and I can't spend 5 minutes outside without seeing attractive woman.

Good for you. Which city?


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11 minutes ago, LordFall said:

You have two simple options the way I see it. For the short to medium term focus on hosting events and social circle game. Then you can you'll have all the women in the region to pull from and you'll level up your status over time. Message @jacknine119 he's also from Tbilisi perhaps you can link up and throw some events together. 

The second option is medium to long term but get your income up(especially online income) and move, travel and date women from the whole world. That takes more work but is the best option that will solve most of your life problems. You can start by building an Instagram and personal brand which will help your dating even in Georgia but as you learn to monetize it then the whole world opens up to you. 

What do I you think about Tbilisi per se, it is me just coping, or is this legit problem?


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2 minutes ago, Rasheed said:

Good for you. Which city?

Prague.

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1 minute ago, Valach said:

Prague.

Bro, Prague is famous for day game. Are you seriously comparing Prague to Tbilisi?

 

It is not only about population as I can conjecture

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1 minute ago, Rasheed said:

What do I you think about Tbilisi per se, it is me just coping, or is this legit problem?

It is limiting beliefs of yours. If you are struggling with finding woman in a city of population above 1 mil, that is on you. I know guys who run regurarly daygame in cities under 100k and they make it work. You have no excuses.

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12 minutes ago, Rasheed said:

Bro, Prague is famous for day game. Are you seriously comparing Prague to Tbilisi?

It is still the same size (population wise), as I said you have no excuses. Yes, Prague is great for game. But if you are struggling in such a big city, that is on you. I bet you could find 20 attractive woman within an hour if you really tried.

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45 minutes ago, Rasheed said:

What do I you think about Tbilisi per se, it is me just coping, or is this legit problem?

It's a legit problem. If you have to twist your life in all kinds of ways that you don't desire to make dating work then whether it works or not you're not gonna be satisfied. If you were making $20k/month online you would not run into this issue. You could relocate to a new hub or move countries each 3 months however you see fit. That's what abundance looks like. How you manage your lack of abundance with your current resources is what we are talking about here. 

You should approach women that you're not into because you're practicing social skills, you don't have to try to pull those women and then when you see women you're really into then you'll have momentum and not be anxious. That will help extend your pool but it won't solve the problem entirely.

Running events is the best thing you can do this month to level up your social skills. It teaches you so much about what hot women respond to and need. 

https://www.instagram.com/icmodelmanagement/?hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/natalimodels/?hl=en

There are apparently 10-15 modelling agencies in Tbilisi. Models are a good niche to start with because they're hot, post themselves online so are easy to find and have an easy to fulfill value model meaning that it's easy to host a photoshoot or media networking event and get them to come because all of them are looking for the same thing. 

Photoshoots are one route but you can host a book club, food events, run club, etc. It's all about standardizing a group hangout that attracts the people that you want i.e. attractive women that would be open to dating you in this case. 

Social circle game is a bit different than cold approach since you won't be anonymous while throwing events and thus have a reputation to maintain and can't escalate like a madman but it'll teach you calibration and regardless this is a more valuable skillset to develop that will help all areas of your life rather than just approaching women on the street. 

Feel free to DM me on Instagram and I can give you more advice on how to throw events.

This is one event that I threw a couple of months ago :

Once you throw events regular and know a lot of women then your whole life becomes a warm approach. Most women are gonna be single and if you get along with them you can ask them out and then boom you're dating models and if it doesn't work just be pleasant and professional and it won't really affect your ecosystem. Where you take it from there is up to you and your life purpose. You can do a Hugh Hefner and try to build a global media brand or just date 1 woman and use your newly acquired social circle skills more for business purposes.

I like more the Hugh Hefner route but to each their own. 

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5 minutes ago, LordFall said:

It's a legit problem. If you have to twist your life in all kinds of ways that you don't desire to make dating work then whether it works or not you're not gonna be satisfied. If you were making $20k/month online you would not run into this issue. You could relocate to a new hub or move countries each 3 months however you see fit. That's what abundance looks like. How you manage your lack of abundance with your current resources is what we are talking about here. 

You should approach women that you're not into because you're practicing social skills, you don't have to try to pull those women and then when you see women you're really into then you'll have momentum and not be anxious. That will help extend your pool but it won't solve the problem entirely.

Running events is the best thing you can do this month to level up your social skills. It teaches you so much about what hot women respond to and need. 

https://www.instagram.com/icmodelmanagement/?hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/natalimodels/?hl=en

There are apparently 10-15 modelling agencies in Tbilisi. Models are a good niche to start with because they're hot, post themselves online so are easy to find and have an easy to fulfill value model meaning that it's easy to host a photoshoot or media networking event and get them to come because all of them are looking for the same thing. 

Social circle game is a bit different than cold approach since you won't be anonymous while throwing events and thus have a reputation to maintain and can't escalate like a madman but it'll teach you calibration and regardless this is a more valuable skillset to develop that will help all areas of your life rather than just approaching women on the street. 

Feel free to DM me on Instagram and I can give you more advice on how to throw events.

This is one event that I threw a couple of months ago :

 

Thanks for advice, I appreciate it. I will take everything you have said into consideration


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No problem. It helps to remember that cold approach is just one way that was popularized to deal with the fact that the establishment doesn't give you easy mates anymore as was the case pre 1960s sexual revolution. Now that you can host your own events and post your own media for basically free the best route is to become the establishment yourself.

With Instagram you can literally message every single attractive woman on earth so you don't actually live in Tbilisi my friend you live in a global dating marketplace i.e. planet earth. 


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33 minutes ago, LordFall said:

You should approach women that you're not into because you're practicing social skills, you don't have to try to pull those women and then when you see women you're really into then you'll have momentum and not be anxious. That will help extend your pool but it won't solve the problem entirely.

Look dude, I don't mind you giving advice on the social circle stuff eventhough I think it is not the most effective approach to the whole thing. But at least do not give out advice like this when you yourself do not have much experience cold approaching. Not to mention how unethical this shit is.

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@Rasheed Hey man I’m from Tbilisi, too. What makes it hard is that in Georgia we don’t have cold approaching culture. Stranger=danger here. You can see no one smiles in the street also. I disagree that it’s hard to see attractive woman, because I see them in every step. 

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4 minutes ago, jacknine119 said:

@Rasheed Hey man I’m from Tbilisi, too. What makes it hard is that in Georgia we don’t have cold approaching culture. Stranger=danger here. You can see no one smiles in the street also. I disagree that it’s hard to see attractive woman, because I see them in every step. 

That is like number 1 excuse guys say. There is not country on the planet where there is cold approach culture.

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37 minutes ago, Valach said:

Look dude, I don't mind you giving advice on the social circle stuff eventhough I think it is not the most effective approach to the whole thing. But at least do not give out advice like this when you yourself do not have much experience cold approaching. Not to mention how unethical this shit is.

You can talk to women and make pleasant conversations for a few minutes and then go off with your day. If you find that unethical I think perhaps your mindset is a bit off. As for experience, I’ve pulled from cold approach, used it to promote events and transitioned those lessons into building actual social architecture. I’m not claiming to be a world champion, I'm only pointing out how to get more leverage from your time for someone who seems to be hitting a roadblock. 

Also when you focus on cold approach without creating systems around it you introduce burnout because it's not a really fun activity and also you're not working holistically on the other areas of your life whereas with social circle you can do it all at once. 

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2 minutes ago, LordFall said:

You can talk to women and make pleasant conversations for a few minutes and then go off with your day. If you find that unethical I think perhaps your mindset is a bit off. As for experience, I’ve pulled from cold approach, used it to promote events and transitioned those lessons into building actual social architecture. I’m not claiming to be a world champion, I'm only pointing out how to get more leverage from your time for someone who seems to be hitting a roadblock. 

 

Sure, but you never mentioned that. The way you said it looked like you want him to run game on woman whom he is not interested in.

i would say it takes even more skill to actually be "just friendly" during daytime. Most woman are going to be wondering why you are approaching them in the first place.

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54 minutes ago, jacknine119 said:

@Rasheed Hey man I’m from Tbilisi, too. What makes it hard is that in Georgia we don’t have cold approaching culture. Stranger=danger here. You can see no one smiles in the street also. I disagree that it’s hard to see attractive woman, because I see them in every step. 

Where do you see these attractive women? 


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