‘Weary of Those Who Speak For A Living’

[yetineti]

Leo, mentioned be weary of people who speak for a living, at one point.

I would like to dive into this a bit deeper.

Initially I thought ‘Doesn’t Leo speak for a living?’

I realize I am probably ignorant. And the word ‘living’ does a lot of work here.

Leo sells courses, makes video games and probably a lot more I do not know about.

Nonetheless, speaking is a big part of Actualized.org and how many of us ended up here.

Almost being 25, I still do not have the direction with my life I thought I would. But I love speaking, debates, learning from people, etc.

I see all of the issues with that and wonder where the line could be.

Leo seems to have a good job balancing his public discourse, whether it’s on the forum, videos, interviews, etc. 

I do not think it is anywhere near his main focus, however. That probably helps.

There is also the issue of AI, general safety concerns and more for anyone who wants to be a journalist, podcaster and/or interviewer, etc.

I get the impression many people do not feel comfortable speaking out. Many people do not refer to people or conversations, like they used to, etc.

There is a lot here I know. As much as I’d love to figure out the future, career paths, etc. — I am mainly curious how everyone views public speaking, different formats, etc.?

What is career worthy vs. automatic cringe?

 

[Leo Gura]

I do speak for a living.

That's why I'm wary of it.

Edited Thursday at 08:20 PM by Leo Gura

[yetineti]

@Leo Gura Fucking hell. You’re great man. Loop closed. Thanks.

[WonderSeeker]

On 6/19/2026 at 5:16 AM, yetineti said:

Almost being 25, I still do not have the direction with my life I thought I would. But I love speaking, debates, learning from people, etc.

I see all of the issues with that and wonder where the line could be.

Leo seems to have a good job balancing his public discourse, whether it’s on the forum, videos, interviews, etc. 

I do not think it is anywhere near his main focus, however. That probably helps.

There is also the issue of AI, general safety concerns and more for anyone who wants to be a journalist, podcaster and/or interviewer, etc.

I get the impression many people do not feel comfortable speaking out. Many people do not refer to people or conversations, like they used to, etc.

There is a lot here I know. As much as I’d love to figure out the future, career paths, etc. — I am mainly curious how everyone views public speaking, different formats, etc.?

What is career worthy vs. automatic cringe?

It sounds like you should get out and do more public speaking if it suits you. Experience the answer to the career vs cringe question. I'm curious about what you'll learn from taking action.

[Joseph Maynor]

Speaking is often a discourse about something not an experience of something.

[WonderSeeker]

17 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Speaking is often a discourse about something not an experience of something.

Yes, but speaking, as an activity itself, is an experience. You feel into your body and mind, learning how to control different muscles, make different gestures, and use different techniques to bring across a subject of interest.

Of course, the content of what's being spoken about better be authentic. If it's based out of speculation and theory regurgitation, it loses signal.

I'm a school teacher by trade, so I'm biased

Edited 2 hours ago by WonderSeeker

[Joseph Maynor]

Speaking is a creation.   

[Joseph Maynor]

People make money gaslighting people.  

[Joseph Maynor]

Very few of these people reveal themselves.  It is an anonymous party at best.  

[WonderSeeker]

48 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

People make money gaslighting people.  

Best to ignore them. 

View-sanity is vanity. They hate themselves deep down. 

Most aren't patient enough to accumulate real life experience and speak from that. They'd rather suck up someone else's hard-earned, lifelong work and regurgitate it.

Or just get plastic surgery, oversaturate the shit out of their thumbnails, and use optimized AI scripts overlaying videos of 1 million dynamite sticks blowing up a whale to gain popularity.

Lol, I dunno how people actually watch such slop.

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, WonderSeeker said:

Best to ignore them. 

View-sanity is vanity. They hate themselves deep down. 

Most aren't patient enough to accumulate real life experience and speak from that. They'd rather suck up someone else's hard-earned, lifelong work and regurgitate it.

Or just get plastic surgery, oversaturate the shit out of their thumbnails, and use optimized AI scripts overlaying videos of 1 million dynamite sticks blowing up a whale to gain popularity.

Lol, I dunno how people actually watch such slop.

I guess sort of.  But these people want to make serious statements and even money.  I'm not a player hater in that way.  Do what you gotta do.  

[yetineti]

@Joseph Maynor

If to you, that is speaking, what is it I am to make of your own words?

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, yetineti said:

@Joseph Maynor

If to you, that is speaking, what is it I am to make of your own words?

Speaking is just what you say preferably in person.  

[yetineti]

@Joseph Maynor

And what do you say?

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, yetineti said:

@Joseph Maynor

And what do you say?

Exactly what I say but not always so harsh.  I try to dial it back because I don't know who I'm talking to.