Jiddu Krishnamurti

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

😁 yup,

beyond ridiculous

I guess I shouldn't shit on my stomping ground though 

Jokes have their place 😇

[Jirh]

2 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

The thought is the thing explaining what it is…a mystery for now 

Cool.

What is the nature of thoughts, though?

You don't have to answer of course. I'm just enjoying the inquiry.

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Jirh said:

Cool.

What is the nature of thoughts, though?

You don't have to answer of course. I'm just enjoying the inquiry.

I can feel it’s genuine 

So many of us here kind of exploring that “teacher role” it’s so whole some , it’s good place for it😁

I find I’ve come to a point in my life where thoughts seem very distinct for me, and it’s clear to me that it’s a thought. Thoughts lack physicality, yet they contain some kind of “reality”. It’s like they are auditory and visual illumination of something real. Hmm. Maybe it’s something real that is “sensed” and the thought is just illuminating it

[Jirh]

18 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I can feel it’s genuine 

So many of us here kind of exploring that “teacher role” it’s so whole some , it’s good place for it😁

I don't view it as teaching. More like sharing what I know and learning more in the process. I prefer to call it exploring.

18 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I find I’ve come to a point in my life where thoughts seem very distinct for me, and it’s clear to me that it’s a thought. Thoughts lack physicality, yet they contain some kind of “reality”. It’s like they are auditory and visual illumination of something real. Hmm. Maybe it’s something real that is “sensed” and the thought is just illuminating it

Well, that's way too much to explore 😅

physicality, reality, real, illuminating.

Each is its own journey.

[Mellowmarsh]

Thoughts simulate a reality that’s not actually there in reality.

[Breakingthewall]

9 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Also if a spiritual teacher is always like “calm” in their expression, no, a developed personality should have different sides to it, always seeming “calm” feels like one sided, something missing. Just some thoughts. 
 

I think that this is because from Buddhism  an "enlightened" person is supposed to be someone who has achieved a permanent state of peace and bliss. This sells much better than a teacher with insomnia because they're in the middle of a horrible divorce. People think: I want that, permanent happiness, I'm buying! 

9 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

can kinda relate to that last part, simply feeling there’s something off,

Imo the problem number one is: suffering comes from thoughts. Stop thinking and suffering will disappear. This implies that there is a self who decides to think or not. And for some reason this self is addicted to suffering. So, what is this self who decides? It's something separate from thoughts? But then they say that there is not a self, it's imaginary . Who is imagining it? So, who could find this explanations satisfactory? Just someone who believe: don't think in it, just let it go. Brunch of bullshit in my humble opinion 

[Breakingthewall]

17 hours ago, Jirh said:

Why assume that consciousness requires change/time to amount to an experience?

You can have consciousness of a static object that's not changing over time. It's not rocket science.

It's static but you arent, trillons of process are happening in you every second. If those processes stop, consciousness also stop. 

[Mellowmarsh]

57 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

: I want that, permanent happiness, I'm buying! 

Not really. Nothing can be happy because nothing is unhappy. Nothing to buy because nothing’s for sale.

[Mellowmarsh]

55 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's static but you arent, trillons of process are happening in you every second. If those processes stop, consciousness also stop. 

Not really, because nothing started or is making this process, and so nothing can stop it.

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's static but you arent, trillons of process are happening in you every second

And yet no you has ever seen the inside of a you.

That’s a true story.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Not really. Nothing can be happy because nothing is unhappy. Nothing to buy because nothing’s for sale.

Nothing is getting bored