So from where do you form romantic relationships?

[fabger]

Getting laid is not difficult if you talk to a bunch of women in clubs and bars.

In my experience they don't convert into relationships though.

At hobby groups women especially are primarly focused on the hobby itself, they're not there to meet dudes.

Is daygame a better alternative for forming relationships?

OLD/hobby groups don't seem to work for most people I know. You either have enough friends from high school and college so they can introduce you to others or you're kinda fucked.

[enchanted]

13 minutes ago, fabger said:

Getting laid is not difficult if you talk to a bunch of women in clubs and bars.

In my experience they don't convert into relationships though.

At hobby groups women especially are primarly focused on the hobby itself, they're not there to meet dudes.

Is daygame a better alternative for forming relationships?

OLD/hobby groups don't seem to work for most people I know. You either have enough friends from high school and college so they can introduce you to others or you're kinda fucked.

If you can get laid easily then you are obviously good enough looking. But if women aren't begging you to be their boyfriend after sleeping with you then there is something off about your lifestyle, hygiene, attire, personality, and income. The good news is all those things can be improved. 

Edited 8 hours ago by enchanted

[LordFall]

I think you could totally form relationships from clubs and bars but the main issue is that a lot of the people there are looking more for fun than growth and shared journey but that's not universally the case. The relationships I've had usually form from social circle. I had one girlfriend I found from volunteering at a comic expo. I think having mutual goals with your partners is a great start so anything related to your career and business is a good move. I run creative groups and a lot of women in there have similar goals to me. If you're into business then business/crypto/finance events have a lot of attractive women aged 25-35 and the single ones would be better partners than club girls I assume. 

One big unlock in terms of the hobby groups is to host them yourself instead of just going to other peoples. Then you learn community building and are more attractive as the group leader. Don't be a creepy guy just looking to get laid in that instance but if it's a meaningful hobby that anyway you're gonna spend years partaking in then it makes a lot of sense. 

Edited 4 hours ago by LordFall