dairy - full-fat vs low-fat?

[PsychedelicEagle]

@Sugarcoat Yes, very likely. My LDL went from 110-120 down (2023-24) to 60; most recently 70 mg/dL (2025-26)

I would estimate I was eating this greek yogurt, about 250-300g/day:

https://www.migros.ch/en/product/205003000000

If you look at the nutritional values:  6.2 g sat fat / 100g -> 18.6g/day ONLY from the yogurt.

My current TOTAL average intake for the last 6 months is 12.3g/day. 

Edited 3 hours ago by PsychedelicEagle

[Judy2]

@Sugarcoat :)

[Judy2]

@PsychedelicEagle that's a very high fat yoghurt. don't you guys also have high protein greek yoghurt with less fat (in the US, i assume)?

i've heard conflicting stories about collagen and how it might be useless because it's broken down during digestion anyway. but maybe that doesn't matter.

[PsychedelicEagle]

39 minutes ago, Judy2 said:

@PsychedelicEagle that's a very high fat yoghurt. don't you guys also have high protein greek yoghurt with less fat (in the US, i assume)?

i've heard conflicting stories about collagen and how it might be useless because it's broken down during digestion anyway. but maybe that doesn't matter.

Yes, that was before I was aware of the importance of lowering sat fat.

As for protein yogurt: honestly I think soy yogurt is healthier. Dairy potential risks in my eyes: casein (gut immune effects), IGF-1 & insulin elevation, hormonal content (most milk comes from pregnant cows). Soy milk just seems a lot cleaner, especially if you do it yourself. Not to mention animal welfare & environmental impact. The only upsides of dairy would be iodine (only present because the cow tits are cleaned with an iodine solution), calcium, & b12, all of which I prefer to supplement.

As for collagen: there is evidence that collagen peptides appear in circulation after collagen is ingested. So our bodies absorb it without final hydrolysation. The question is whether these peptides actually signal collagen synthesis or simply provide substrate (which isolated AAs could replace). Since I have low bone density and trying to optmize it, i decided to take collagen. But I take a smaller dose and supplement with pure Glycine too, which seems to be the limiting AA (thinking of substrate for collagen synthesis, not necessarily signaling).

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[Schizophonia]

It virtualy doesn't make any differences. 

Especially if you're still too thin because of your ed; you could indulge yourself with your diet.

 

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[Sugarcoat]

If you're having a lot of cravings (based on you mentioning the articifical sweeteners) then it could be sign something is lacking, so you could experiment with that, rather than trying to decide beforehand 

[Schizophonia]

4 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

If you're having a lot of cravings (based on you mentioning the articifical sweeteners) then it could be sign something is lacking, so you could experiment with that, rather than trying to decide beforehand 

She was anorexic; she posted photos on one of her journals where she looked very skinny.

I don't know where she stands now.

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[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Schizophonia said:

She was anorexic; she posted photos on one of her journals where he looked very skinny.

I don't know where she stands now.

i remember yea, so it applies 

[Schizophonia]

8 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

i remember yea, so it applies 

👍 

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, PsychedelicEagle said:

@Sugarcoat Yes, very likely. My LDL went from 110-120 down (2023-24) to 60; most recently 70 mg/dL (2025-26)

I would estimate I was eating this greek yogurt, about 250-300g/day:

https://www.migros.ch/en/product/205003000000

If you look at the nutritional values:  6.2 g sat fat / 100g -> 18.6g/day ONLY from the yogurt.

My current TOTAL average intake for the last 6 months is 12.3g/day. 

Is that the stock market 😂 

Well I dont have the feel for those numbers, but yea you could be one of those hyper responders.They mention great metabolism, maybe its a good sign if the body absorbs it well, but then adjustments are needed to accommodate for that