Breakingthewall

Enlightenment in two steps

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3 hours ago, James123 said:

Or realization that what born and will die is body or universe, and You are always what You are, not even moved nor began. 

So you are the observer right? The observer is just a structural point that happens in the experience. Enlightenment happens when the observer open itself to what reality is, becoming an eye that see the absolute  and realizing that the eye is the absolute in seeing itself. 

If you want to open yourself to the absolute you have to start from humility. You always have addressed this work from the need of increase your ego, and this doesn't work 

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So is this just a 'increase chances to accidently get enlightened?' step guide?

Enlightenment is not guaranteed by any method.


It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

So you are the observer right? The observer is just a structural point that happens in the experience. Enlightenment happens when the observer open itself to what reality is, becoming an eye that see the absolute  and realizing that the eye is the absolute in seeing itself. 

If you want to open yourself to the absolute you have to start from humility. You always have addressed this work from the need of increase your ego, and this doesn't work 

No, you are not the observer. Observer is an action, like attachment to thinking. Even observer vanishes. 

Be witness till witnesser vanishes.

 

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"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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On 5/24/2026 at 5:08 PM, Breakingthewall said:

At that moment, you are not a person looking at reality; you are the property of reality of looking at itself, of becoming conscious of itself.

 As Alan Watts said in his manuscript 'The Art of Contemplation' "You are the aperture through which the universe is aware of itself. These centers are not, as may seem, apart from their surroundings, but stand in mutual relationship to them".

 

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When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest.

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11 hours ago, James123 said:

No, you are not the observer. Observer is an action, like attachment to thinking. Even observer vanishes. 

Be witness till witnesser vanishes.

 

The observer doesn't vanishes, the observer opens itself to it's unlimited nature. The observer will vanish when it dies, but there are many observers. Infinite more or less. Then if you die nothing important is lost.

But the point is not this, is being open to the source. Understanding is a mean to allow that openess. Human nature is such that closes, then real understanding is needed. If not life is shit because you are closed. It's the same if you have everything, you are in the desert

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11 hours ago, cetus said:

 As Alan Watts said in his manuscript 'The Art of Contemplation' "You are the aperture through which the universe is aware of itself. These centers are not, as may seem, apart from their surroundings, but stand in mutual relationship to them".

 

What we are is a structure that the synchronicity of reality creates, existing in an interconnected relationship with the rest of reality, like everything else that exists. Given our dual nature, as self-preserving processes that interact with an external world, oriented towards permanence, a process called mind appears, which is a link between the inner and outer universes. This universe, which we call consciousness, can open itself to the totality of nature that is its source and essence. This is the eye of the reality.

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12 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

So is this just a 'increase chances to accidently get enlightened?' step guide?

Enlightenment is not guaranteed by any method.

This wasn't intended as a method, but rather an explanation to understand what enlightenment is, its nature, where the closure lies, and how to approach the movement that tends toward enlightenment.

It may seem like I'm teaching people, but that's not the case. What I write are reflections, and I share them because doing so helps me... let's say, refine the mental scalpel necessary to understand this game.

What I say is based on real experience; I'm not making anything up. But having the experience is one thing, understanding its structure is another. I can't help but focus on this for a considerable amount of time each day, then it's great that there is some people to share, even for argues 😅

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By the way, a reflection on openness to the totality. It's not something you know. If yesterday your openness to the limitless that lives was the case, but today, for whatever reason, the structure of your psyche closes, then you don't know what the limitless was. It's impossible because it's not something concrete, it's not someone, an entity; it's the bottomless, boundless from which reality inevitably springs.

If you are open to it, it is total light. If you are closed, you start to think...let's see, so I am the inevitable bottomless flow? That seems impersonal, wild, meaningless, an eternal prison, an infinite machine of equations that creates things because it can't help but.

Everything turns gray, sad. The mind finds no foothold, nothing makes sense, not even death is an escape. Relationships with people, work, life...what is the point of this madness? It's what they call the dark night of the soul. So you have to be astute and understand how you close and reopen.

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40 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The observer doesn't vanishes, the observer opens itself to it's unlimited nature. The observer will vanish when it dies, but there are many observers. Infinite more or less. Then if you die nothing important is lost.

İf you really believe that observer doesn't vanishes, that i was right. You are not even in the beginning of spirituality.

42 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

But the point is not this, is being open to the source. Understanding is a mean to allow that openess. Human nature is such that closes, then real understanding is needed. If not life is shit because you are closed. It's the same if you have everything, you are in the desert

You can not be open the source, because You are already. There is no distance, therefore, no need to act, just Being is enough. It is most difficult for you to do, because mind is too active. 

You will waste entire life. 

Instead of try to preach, be brave enough to die, then body will teach itself. 

 


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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10 minutes ago, James123 said:

you really believe that observer doesn't vanishes, that i was right. You are not even in the beginning of spirituality.

The observer is the structure that a human is. Is the fact of perceiving. Perceiving is the reality reflected in itself. The observer and the observed are the same, but exist in an structure that allows the fact of perceiving. 

I don't know what did you read, but denying what's obvious only will mess your mind 

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4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The observer is the structure that a human is. Is the fact of perceiving. Perceiving is the reality reflected in itself. The observer and the observed are the same, but exist in an structure that allows the fact of perceiving. 

I don't know what did you read, but denying what's obvious only will mess your mind 

Find yourself in that body, But not as I am the energy in body, or molecule, or in brain, literally point out that is you. then we will talk.  

I tried, but really can't help you. Mind conquered you.

Good luck.


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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9 minutes ago, James123 said:

Find yourself in that body, But not as I am the energy in body, or molecule, or in brain, literally point out that is you. then we will talk.  

I tried, but really can't help you. Mind conquered you.

Good luck.

52 minutes ago, James123 said:

 

Ok thanks 

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