Starving Patriarchy

[Rafael Thundercat]

13 hours ago, Basman said:

Like this phenomena of women freezing during rape. If you think about it, it makes more sense for women to evolve to not fight their rapist tooth and claw because they are the one's that end up reproducing

Well, unless woman start to matching the game like this lady here

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYIaKhpBisY/?igsh=bHk5cmFxdHl2OWUy

Keep thinking woman cant be brutal and maybe one day you find one that will show you you theory is not so certain. 

[Lila9]

On 5/17/2026 at 9:27 AM, Wilhelm44 said:

Thank you, I actually really enjoyed her video. I was thinking if you ladies want to promote the matriarchy, I would use words like egalitarian more often. Because when us guys here the word matriarchy, we immediately think its gonna be exactly like patriarchy but women have all the power. And that's not what she is saying at all.

Egalitarian societies are naturally more feminine societies in which motherhood has significant value, as it naturally should. They are societies centered around care and nurture, which is what motherhood is about.

In such a society, men are protectors rather than abusers, which is the real purpose of masculinity. The purpose of masculinity is to support life, not to destroy it.

It benefits everyone rather than a minority of people whom everyone strives or is forced to imitate.

The patriarchal definition of matriarchy is incorrect and is a projection. Feminists don’t want to do to men what they did to women for thousands of years, even though they are understandably angry about it. The purpose is to do what is both best and most natural for human social structure, and there are real anthropological data that support it.

In an egalitarian/matriarchal society, leadership is given to those who are most suitable, regardless of gender, rather than taken.

Since, according to some data, women are better leaders by many measures, especially older women, there will naturally be more women leaders in an egalitarian society.

Some believe that in the human species, women living longer after menopause, especially longer than men, implies that older women have a significant role in society, particularly in leadership.

Usually, men don’t enjoy leading roles or taking accountability as much.

Of course, they may enjoy the benefits of power, the glory, and the identity associated with it, but they may not like to hold accountability or be responsible.

Many men prefer to be useful, feel needed, and follow instructions rather than hold accountability and carry the mental and emotional load of managing and leading, even if they are not comfortable admitting it.

Of course, there are many men who are great in leadership, especially as they mature, but this is not something that all men biologically and automatically have. 

Most of the leaders in the world are men and they are very selfish and do lots of mistakes. There are barely one man I can call a true leader or at least see in him the same leadership qualities I have seen in my grandmother for example.

For most of human history, society was sustained by the behind-the-scenes, quiet leadership and management skills of women, especially older women, which were barely recognized as more patriarchal structures arose.

[Lila9]

3 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Well, unless woman start to matching the game like this lady here

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYIaKhpBisY/?igsh=bHk5cmFxdHl2OWUy

Keep thinking woman cant be brutal and maybe one day you find one that will show you you theory is not so certain. 

She was brutally abused as a child. She knew male hatred and abuse her entire life. No love. So many women are living like that quietly, poor women, women of color, women in third-world countries, the most invisible women.

The fact that they punished her by ending her life so easily shows how biased and misogynistic the system is. She deserved healing and recovery. Pedophiles and serial killers were treated better than her.

[Wilhelm44]

2 hours ago, Lila9 said:

Egalitarian societies are naturally more feminine societies in which motherhood has significant value, as it naturally should. They are societies centered around care and nurture, which is what motherhood is about.

In such a society, men are protectors rather than abusers, which is the real purpose of masculinity. The purpose of masculinity is to support life, not to destroy it.

It benefits everyone rather than a minority of people whom everyone strives or is forced to imitate.

The patriarchal definition of matriarchy is incorrect and is a projection. Feminists don’t want to do to men what they did to women for thousands of years, even though they are understandably angry about it. The purpose is to do what is both best and most natural for human social structure, and there are real anthropological data that support it.

In an egalitarian/matriarchal society, leadership is given to those who are most suitable, regardless of gender, rather than taken.

Since, according to some data, women are better leaders by many measures, especially older women, there will naturally be more women leaders in an egalitarian society.

Some believe that in the human species, women living longer after menopause, especially longer than men, implies that older women have a significant role in society, particularly in leadership.

Usually, men don’t enjoy leading roles or taking accountability as much.

Of course, they may enjoy the benefits of power, the glory, and the identity associated with it, but they may not like to hold accountability or be responsible.

Many men prefer to be useful, feel needed, and follow instructions rather than hold accountability and carry the mental and emotional load of managing and leading, even if they are not comfortable admitting it.

Of course, there are many men who are great in leadership, especially as they mature, but this is not something that all men biologically and automatically have. 

Most of the leaders in the world are men and they are very selfish and do lots of mistakes. There are barely one man I can call a true leader or at least see in him the same leadership qualities I have seen in my grandmother for example.

For most of human history, society was sustained by the behind-the-scenes, quiet leadership and management skills of women, especially older women, which were barely recognized as more patriarchal structures arose.

Somehow it's really hard to get a strait answer on what is meant by matriarchy here.

On the one hand it's called egalitarian, on the other hand you are saying most of the leaders will be women anyway.

Being a good and wise leader depends on your level of consciousness, not your gender.

(Men treated women badly not because they are men, it's a matter of levels of consciousness. If women were physically stronger than men, we'd be talking about how badly women treated men. Can you see that it was never personal ?)

The only real way to have a better society is to raise the general level of consciousness, for man and woman.

Conscious people treat each other better.

Edited 4 hours ago by Wilhelm44

[Lila9]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Somehow it's really hard to get a strait answer on what is meant by matriarchy here.

On the one hand it's called egalitarian, on the other hand you are saying most of the leaders will be women anyway.

Being a good and wise leader depends on your level of consciousness, not your gender.

(Men treated women badly not because they are men, it's a matter of levels of consciousness. If women were physically stronger than men, we'd be talking about how badly women treated men. Can you see that it was never personal ?)

The only real way to have a better society is to raise the general level of consciousness, for man and woman.

Conscious people treat each other better.

Sure, good leadership depends on the level of consciousness. As of today, women tend to be more conscious in that regard. They often care more about human issues and think more about the group and people other than themselves, which many men lack.

Men can also develop it, but this clashes with patriarchal expectations of men, and usually this sort of more selfless thinking is punished in men, usually by other men. Ironically, it creates men who are bad, impulsive and selfish leaders.

However, the modern feminist definition of matriarchy is not women ruling, but the acknowledgment of motherhood as a beginning and matriarchy as a care-centered society, as I mentioned. It is actually reclaiming the divine feminine which has been repressed and demonized in the last thousands of years. Without this, there is no healthy and thriving civilization, only destruction and death. 

I just wanted to add a note that there is data showing better leadership skills in women, and that it is more likely that in an egalitarian (matriarchal, care-centered, and life-supporting) society, there will be more good women leaders as a result of natural distribution rather than by force, not that there will be no good men leaders at all.

I think that it helps women who are good at leading fulfill their life purposes while helping other people, while also relieving some of the pressure men feel to always be leaders. Many men are not built for it and do not like it. You can see it in the many fathers who leave their families or are afraid of the responsibility.

Of course, when it comes to romance, it is different. Men are more likely to be the suitors because this is something that both men and women enjoy. There may be biological reasons for it as well. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

4 hours ago, Lila9 said:

The purpose of masculinity is to support life, not to destroy it.

The Matriarchal Masculine.

[Willy Phallicus]

20 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I don't really care about continuing a dialogue with anyone so entrenched in a frame they cannot drop it for pure conceptual understanding.

We can't have a dialogue and that's entirely your fault.  I point you to my argument and you point back at me and don't address a damn thing I said.  I do understand, I just don't agree.  Are you too employed to spot the difference?  That's the real problem you have with me but Ill just point out that its your problem and you're the negative element here.   It would have been more honest to say you just don't care to have a dialogue unless I steer away from the facts of the matter so I can somehow validate the OPs short sighted, misguided and completely biased perspective.

Respect isn't a given, its earned and the OPs position deserves no respect whatsoever so Im not giving it any.  Cry me another river.

Saying we need the extreme of matriarchy to bring balance to human governance because the extreme that is patriarchy is unbalanced and domineering is straight up cognitive dissonance of the fanatical first order.  Balance and equality are one man and one woman and neither exercising power or influence over the other to arrive at an agreed upon set of goals.  Thats not what the OP is proposing and again, Im just calling it out and youre trying to call me out in the lamest way imaginable.

So unless you have something to actually refute the above paragraph about what balance is Miss Good Faith Discussion I highly recommend you stick to your guns, stop replying and maybe try discussions more your speed.

Edited 2 hours ago by Willy Phallicus

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Willy Phallicus peace, dude. Don't let this scramble the eggs. It's just an online conversation. 

[Lila9]

Male higher suicide rate (which occured even before feminism and women rights, as per the study mentioned in the video), feminicde, rape culture, greedy and selfish billionaires, inequality, environmental crisis, manosphere, they all have one main reason: patriarchy. 

This is not a gender war. This is a conflict between values. Life and death.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Lila9

[Willy Phallicus]

Its not the patriarchy. It's not the vatican or the rosicross.  It's not the jews or the elites or the new world order.  It's not reptoids or revolutionaries, it's not grey aliens or hermaphrodites, it's not bankers or pandimensional entities, it's not lucifer or troglodytes, it's not social engineers or eugenecists, it's not politicians or chupacabra, it's not the morlocks or the eloi - these are all just front groups for the real problem:

Reality.

Gravity, the element carbon, self awareness, opposable thumbs, electro-magnetism, genitalia and digestive enzymes have all conspired and colluded to make a perfectly shitty order of things.