Most people shouldn't own dogs

[Natasha Tori Maru]

8 hours ago, Basman said:

That's every thread in existence.

ROFL no - there are threads that show a lot more factual discernment in their OP over straight judgement bias.

I'm being naughty really, because you are fully entitled to your bias - as are well all when it is a preference or judgement based endevour.

There isn't an objective case/discernment for 'dog parents that treat their animals like humans are wrong/bad'. 

But of course, it's a legit thing that irks people. Ick provoking

Edited 10 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Most dogs shouldn't allow people to own them, then. Why don't they create dog unions to fight back against inequality, why don't they just get jobs?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

35 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Most dogs shouldn't allow people to own them, then. Why don't they create dog unions to fight back against inequality, why don't they just get jobs?

Because humans, over the span on 15,000 - 30,000 years, brainwashed dogs into bonding with us so hardcore - we altered their evolutionary biology to need and want to work with us 

tl;dr we are cu*** 

[LoneWonderer]

We love our dog. She is her own dog not beholden to anyone. At the same time is is utterly and miserably dependable on us to feed her and look after her. We love her and she loves us. I also recognize she is completely brainwashed since a puppy to be a good girl and follow directions from us. It's a cruel world. Is it animal cruelty? In a sense yes, in another sense she has a loving home and that's more than most pets can ask for? Is she happy? I dunno ask her! But obviously she would prob be most happy running wild and free with other packs of wild dogs chasing a rabbit for dinner and fighting with the other dog clans. Her name Kaffi, she special to us!

Edited 7 hours ago by LoneWonderer

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@LoneWonderer  I LOVE!

Whatever we have done to dogs to make them adore and bond to humans - it's real now. The joy I get from my girl - no words. She comes with me to the office while I work so she isn't alone in an apartment all day. 3x walks. I cook her meals because I just cannot bare to think of a being under my care living off nothing but dry kibble and packaged MyDog shit. She is a minipoodle, but unlike most small dogs, is highly trained and doesn't bark. I put lots of time into training her - and she trained me as well. To be more diligent, attentive and careful. I learned a lot through caring for her. It was a symbiotic enriching process.

Sometimes I am legit dead at the end of the day, no energy, falling asleep throwing a ball against the wall for her. 

Worth it!

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

36 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Because humans, over the span on 15,000 - 30,000 years, brainwashed dogs into bonding with us so hardcore - we altered their evolutionary biology to need and want to work with us 

tl;dr we are cu*** 

They could've resisted our domestification attempts like elks or mooses did. Or like elephants have, and many other animal species that are too wild to "tame". Apparently it had to be a mutually beneficial deal, otherwise they'd have to reject us and get a job instead

Edited 7 hours ago by NewKidOnTheBlock

[LoneWonderer]

1 minute ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@LoneWonderer  I LOVE!

Whatever we have done to dogs to make them adore and bond to humans - it's real now. The joy I get from my girl - no words. She comes with me to the office while I work so she isn't alone in an apartment all day. 3x walks. I cook her meals because I just cannot bare to think of a being under my care living off nothing but dry kibble and packaged MyDog shit. She is a minipoodle, but unlike most small dogs, is highly trained and doesn't bark. I put lots of time into training her - and she trained me as well. To be more diligent, attentive and careful. I learned a lot through caring for her. It was a symbiotic enriching process.

Sometimes I am legit dead at the end of the day, no energy, falling asleep throwing a ball against the wall for her. 

Worth it!

🥹🥹😭 Always in our hearts and minds

[Monster Energy]

I LOVE DOGS!!!

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

26 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

 reject us and get a job instead

rofl i'm too employed for this soz

[Basman]

6 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

There isn't an objective case/discernment for 'dog parents that treat their animals like humans are wrong/bad'. 

Antropomorphism is wrong. It's a projection of qualities that don't exist. Dogs are not children and they can't fulfill emotional needs like other another person. It silly and can lead irresponsible behavior, like overfeeding or behavior issues.

Nothing I've said has been definitely untrue. Your clearly biased yourself. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Basman I think you are going too far to try to make a case that isn't there. Dog owners who go overboard with their dogs, treating them with the same sort of care they would a child, are not thinking their dogs ARE humanoid. There would be some psychotic individuals out there who might be off the rails with it. But this isn't the typical dog owner who goes way above with their animal. You actually cannot know what sort of emotional needs a dog is fulfilling. You cannot know or quantify another's experience of the matter at all.

I assume you mean anthropomorphism? Wrong is just your moral judgement. A bias. Which you never have to justify - but I admire the effort LOL

I totally own my bias - that's the difference  

Edited 3 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru