Sam Harris : Hasan Piker Is the Left's Nick Fuentes

[Cred]

@Leo Gura This is false. @Joel3102 is correct in saying Hassan poses as stage green but is not actually stage green.

The reason why I can see behind his facade is because I know how radical leftists operate and the reason why I know how radical leftists operate is because I am a radical leftist.

Hassan Piker is a Marxist-Leninist and Marxism-Leninism is stage Yellow, because dialectical thinking is a kind of systems thinking and thus stage yellow. Note that spiral dynamics itself is just a version of dialectical thinking.

The reason why radical leftists think they are superior is because they are superior. Why are they superior? They are superior for the same reason why spiral dynamics is superior, which is because any political ideology that integrates dialectical thinking is superior to every political ideology that doesn't.

Marxists are not the ones who are in an echo chamber. The capitalist realists like Leo are the ones in an echo chamber. The echo chamber of propaganda an misinformation about the history of communism from capitalists. If someone suggests to Leo he is in an echo chamber about god, he would laugh since he knows what he is talking about. The same is true for Marxists about governance. We know we are right and that's why we are not open to criticism from people who do not practice historical materialism.

What differentiates Marxism-Leninism from other ideologies that integrate dialectics is that they are the only ones historically with the balls to wage war against evil. "The horrors of communism" have absolutely zero to do with Marxist-Leninist ideology. In reality, the horrors of communism are just the horrors of being oppressed by the west.

There is no such thing as a country that doesn't primarily act in the interest of western capitalists that is not actually oppressed by the west in hopes that they submit. The ideology of the state can be the best, most epistemically rigorous system on the planet, it would still struggle under western oppression.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Is that really so bad?

I see so many Greens acting all self-righteous about this.

Animals are trained in various ways.

It's not like he's doing it for sadistic pleasure.

When my cat would misbehave I would spray her with a water squitter. It's a training technique. It is not done to hurt them.

I'd say spraying with a water squitter is a lot different than giving your pet electric shocks via collar. And it isn't even a combat dog or anything like that. And there's no justification for it as far as I know, other than for his pet to pose in his low IQ videos the way he wants it to

[Leo Gura]

I see people using this dog thing to demonize him as some evil monster. Which seems silly to me.

People are trying way too hard to demonize him and the dog is the perfect excuse.

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[Leo Gura]

53 minutes ago, Cred said:

@Leo Gura This is false. @Joel3102 is correct in saying Hassan poses as stage green but is not actually stage green.

The reason why I can see behind his facade is because I know how radical leftists operate and the reason why I know how radical leftists operate is because I am a radical leftist.

Hassan Piker is a Marxist-Leninist and Marxism-Leninism is stage Yellow, because dialectical thinking is a kind of systems thinking and thus stage yellow. Note that spiral dynamics itself is just a version of dialectical thinking.

The reason why radical leftists think they are superior is because they are superior. Why are they superior? They are superior for the same reason why spiral dynamics is superior, which is because any political ideology that integrates dialectical thinking is superior to every political ideology that doesn't.

Marxists are not the ones who are in an echo chamber. The capitalist realists like Leo are the ones in an echo chamber. The echo chamber of propaganda an misinformation about the history of communism from capitalists. If someone suggests to Leo he is in an echo chamber about god, he would laugh since he knows what he is talking about. The same is true for Marxists about governance. We know we are right and that's why we are not open to criticism from people who do not practice historical materialism.

What differentiates Marxism-Leninism from other ideologies that integrate dialectics is that they are the only ones historically with the balls to wage war against evil. "The horrors of communism" have absolutely zero to do with Marxist-Leninist ideology. In reality, the horrors of communism are just the horrors of being oppressed by the west.

There is no such thing as a country that doesn't primarily act in the interest of western capitalists that is not actually oppressed by the west in hopes that they submit. The ideology of the state can be the best, most epistemically rigorous system on the planet, it would still struggle under western oppression.

I don't agree with your views at all.

[Cred]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't agree with your views at all.

The key is to learn about the view of history of someone who in educated in dialectical materialism and historical materialism and then compare that view to your current view. What you will notice is that their view is more coherent and more plausible than your view.

If you only learn about history from people who don't have this background, your view of history is incomplete.

Edited 3 hours ago by Cred

[Leo Gura]

@Cred I don't find Marxists very coherent at all. Their thinking is simplistic, ideological, and conformist. They aren't seriously thinking about how business works and they don't understand human psychology or nature.

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[Cred]

capitalism is not inherent to human nature

[Cred]

Also it is important to distinguish populist marxists from theoretical marxists. Hassan is a populist and therefore he can not radicalize someone as logically minded as you. You need to find the theoretical marxists and then you will realize that they have bullet proof logic.

Some good ones are Madeline Pendleton, know way no how and Hakim

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[yetineti]

A Marxist with bulletproof logic would be like a right winger with emotional intelligence. 

[Joel3102]

@Leo Gura I just don’t see him as a green guy. He’s a comically materialistic frat bro, who actually doesn’t care much about green identity politics if you watch him more deeply. I see him more as a red/blue/orange quasi tankie who’s pro anything that’s anti west (which can overlap with green, but a lot of people in the world are anti west without being green)

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[Cred]

16 minutes ago, yetineti said:

A Marxist with bulletproof logic would be like a right winger with emotional intelligence. 

🤡

[lostingenosmaze]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Is that really so bad?

The issue is Hasan is deep in denial about it, to the point of gaslighting that there is no collar at all. So much sloptuber content has been made memeing his dishonesty around the issue.

Edited 1 hour ago by lostingenosmaze