Do women feel genuine attraction only for 10% of men or it's a myth?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

43 minutes ago, JoshB said:

Id say the thing that matters the most is how approachable and comfortable the man appears towards the woman. 

Safety 🎯

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, Jirh said:

You're hinting at the tension between truth and survival, between reality and illusion.

There is no easy answer. It's a tug of war.
Women are torn between what looks right and what feels tempting in the moment.

Similar to the domain of sex for men. That drive has the potential to override rationality.

Strong drives override higher order reasoning. For both sexes. 

[gettoefl]

17 hours ago, Tenebroso said:

It's true. It doesn't mean only the top 10% get relationships but it means only the top 10% or even arguably 1% get to experience true female desire and lust. Women and self appointed "good men" will never admit because any scrutiny of female choice is a sin in modern society.

Every woman regardless of age, size, personality, background, health, height, personality etc is attractive to a man somewhere but the same is not true for men. Many men are not attractive to any women regardless of how kind, safe, emotionally intelligent etc they are but we have to hide this to protect the myth  that women are less shallow.

Women need to be attractive since men are required to ejaculate-to-perpetuate. Women by contrast are thinking ahead to the future.

That's why Victoria has a secret but Victor has always been an open book - if you catch my drift.

[gettoefl]

The 3 cardinal sins are: don't be shorter than her, don't earn less than her, don't appear less smart than her.

Then it's green lights all the way to paradise as the song goes.

[Lucasxp64]

Then I'm the top 10% if that were true. Does that make me an ALPHA MAALLEE?!? 🐒

Edited Monday at 04:25 PM by Lucasxp64

[Lucasxp64]

6 hours ago, gettoefl said:

The 3 cardinal sins are: don't be shorter than her, don't earn less than her, don't appear less smart than her.

Then it's green lights all the way to paradise as the song goes.

Context: I'm average looking, I have more of a boyish look than hot vibes, and my voice sounds smooth. I'm skinny and not muscular, but I have stamina.

My major bottleneck is my own logistics of meeting them, and also not looking like a hobo (I don't look like a hobo, but also I wear mostly the same clothing, I'll fix that once some cash comes in).

We MUST have money to make the logistics happen, woman are infinitely less likely to help us out on it. But even that might be optional, I had some chicks telling me they will travel to see me, but I don't trust that, once another thought about paying for my travel, but didn't go through. We at least need to take care of ourselves. But I've seen long-term relationships where the husband gets sick and the wife takes care of him, etc.

I always check the mark of appearing smarter or equal to them, that makes them think I have some massive earning potential.

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The ER Room, cougar and mentally sound lady 😉:

One chick that has a crush for me is much older than me and I think she is probably a little taller than me or has the same height. She doesn't know yet that I'm completely broke and all the money I have is for emergencies and I can't met her. I might get away with asking her for bus money but I doubt that. I met her literally in the ER waiting room, one of the most crazy cold approaches I did, she literally told me multiple times that she loved my energy in that approach.

I do very little actual approaches, but I've been practicing in my head the emotional energy management when I'm close to woman in person, and a few times I had enough energy to actually speak to them.

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The Christian fundamentalist bipolar chick living on the other side of the planet:

There was another one online many years ago that she even used to donate/give me some money when I was in need, but she used to do that with everyone close to her, it wasn't just me. She would self gaslight herself into thinking that I was gonna become really rich, she had some massive personal status anxiety, but in fact, if I had that wealth/energy for dating I wouldn't have touched her not even with a 5 feet pole because she was annoying beyond belief (christian fundamentalist, bipolar, had terrible discipline that was killing her), that was during covid-19, I was feeling super low at that time, the major reason was just her lowering my energy.

Despite of her being good spirited, and we were just trauma boding with each other. This kind of person will drain your life energy, they are vampires.  She somehow was the only woman that was obsessed about telling me that I was skinny and wanted me to be muscular, but somehow she still was crazy for me lmao.

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The only random chick that mentioned my height as a possible issue: Only once one chick that was slightly below my height didn't like that if she were to wear high heels she would appear taller than me, but it wasn't a deal breaker to her probably. I never met her, but we did sexting.

The 8/10 polygamist chick: The hottest woman that I liked, and that also was the most sexually crazy for me couldn't care less about how much I made, didn't complain that I was skinny. I made her come multiple times just on phone callls, in person it would have been wild af. in fact no woman has ever asked me how much I make or I would make... They just deduce that through your status aura lol. They see you in a bad pic, they assume you're low status and broke. They see you in a nic pic that looks high status, they think you're high status. But also some woman, you increase your status aura through talking to them. Some of them are very oriented to language, so just the talking gets them turned on with the shared fantasies. 

Most woman I talked to they sort of just assume your status based on photos and the way you talk and your poise, at least early on, I never went to the phase of living together and sharing expenses, I'd guess that would be a big deal. After that I didn't see them caring about how much I earn, they just assume that I might be rich, or will become rich because I can be eloquent.

A lot of times the money aspect isn't even about the money, it's just woman's visceral anxiety status feelings. They live out of status, and men mostly seek status because they know subconsciously or consciously that woman are hooked into it like nothing else.

Even my charisma and intelligence is felt as a form of status to them. It's wild.

I'd go as far as saying even being emotionally avaliable and behaving boyfriend/fuckboy material to them feels like a status play to them, they tell me: "A guy like you could find a girlfriend any time you want." lol little do they know the effort I had to make for them. 

Edited Monday at 05:15 PM by Lucasxp64

[Jirh]

8 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Similar to the domain of sex for men. That drive has the potential to override rationality.

Strong drives override higher order reasoning. For both sexes. 

In a sense, and for some men, yes.

But when it comes to sex in specific, most men aren't really torn between reality and illusion. They are deeply lost in the illusion to the point where they are blind to reality.

This is why you are seeing such a question in the first place, because this guy is projecting his own way of thinking onto women. He thinks women are similar to him, and that when they see an objectively attractive man (status, looks, money, etc...), their panties immediately get wet and drop to the floor. While that can be true for some women in some phase of their lives (promiscuous/adventurous/immature/naive), most women aren't wired like that. Most women are wired for safety first and leadership second (not the leader), and attraction builds on that intuitive feeling around a particular man, regardless of their reasoning for it or his reality. The internal narrative for women's attraction is this: "Lead me to safety so I can give you myself and show you my beauty."

On the other hand, most men are wired for looks. They see a beautiful young woman and they start drooling over her. Emotions are not included in this equation, nor truth. It's mostly a horny reflex. She's either attractive or not. But beauty is largely subjective. And emotions might develop over time.

But this dude probably has no clue about any of this. He's lost in the illusion and making it worse by consuming such toxic online ideas.

Edited Monday at 07:05 PM by Jirh

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Yup. It is over for you

[Lucasxp64]

On 10/05/2026 at 0:04 PM, Never_give_up said:

I belong to the bottom 5% according to my estimation (maybe even less) in terms of attractiveness so I really have no clue what's true or false. 

😂 Bro, what the fuck? It's statistically unlikely that you're the bottom 5%. Are you like what? A 90 year old morbid obese guy without an arm and blind and can't walk or use a wheelchair? Just your age range alone doesn't make you bottom 5% Just by your usage of emojis and your incel ideas I know you're young enough for a cute young chick to also like you.

Bottom 5% are literally seniors with horrible diseases. Those people can barely even walk or talk. They don't even know how to use a phone, read and write.

The bottom 1% is literally this poor guy I once saw down town that was tossed in some kind of box, and he his body was frail and I feel sad that I didn't speak to him, or called someone for him, to make sure he had access to the social security system and social workers. I'm not even sure if he was able minded to speak.

The bottom is some poor guy working in a gulag in North Korea or in the battlefield in Ukraine getting blasted by his fellow humans in the name of some needless war. Those guys are dead, their wives will move on.

I saw a Ukrainian soldier that lost half of his body and his wife was still with him.

You literally already said back in the day you had some chicks fancying you.

You are just buying into the psych-ops of dating apps and incel garbage.

You are basing that on what? On how many matches you get on Tinder? I literally just use some other chat room apps, and I spam nice messages and get answers back - but it's very mentally challenging because I have to spend a lot of energy calling and texting (I have to send the messages, they only sometimes send me the messages) because I do aura-maxxing vibes-maxxing, my vibes enter their psyche and literally makes them get soaked wet. On Tinder to me there is nothing but literally obese women for me, I have to literally DM them on Instagram from Tinder otherwise they don't answer on their Tinder inbox... Because they magically never match with me.

Some of those online apps I got so good at that it became addictive to me and won't lead me into a relationship because they live too far, they were better because since I was targeting the whole country, the volume is bigger, but it's sort of fake earnings.

Here is the harsh truth about looks: Yes, I'm looking for a hot chick with a nice personality... BUT, Since I had walked outside and talked to a neighbour and in less than 24h I literally was on her bed, just because she was a little fat and her face wasn't completely my type, it was still enjoyable, she was really cute and lovely. I began talking to her even before I saw her face from behind.

That was the first time in my lifetime I had met someone from a cold approach. I just had to apply my flirting skills and use intimacy escalation in a calibrated way. It went perfect, even though the only times I ever even kissed someone was over 8 years ago. It's about your emotional system inside of you. Some woman would never know I was almost a virgin for my whole life because of my inner emotional system being open.

Woman do that all the time to hook up with a guy just because he was there... You can just happen to be the male equivalent of me finding that chick and having fun.

If she had great game and she kept making the logistics of meeting her easy, and she gave me great sex, given my lack of energy right now, I'd have kept dating her just because she was there...

Edited Monday at 11:23 PM by Lucasxp64