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[James123]

 

 

[UnbornTao]

Gotta love Jiddu.

[Someone here]

He said the same thing about God in this video . 
“can the mind observe this emptiness and not move away from it ?” 
this is very fucking important question. Give it a try and Good luck . If you can then it’s time to graduate from this forum . We are light years from achieving this . Even people who are into spirituality can’t let go of their morning Coffe or their phone or watching spiritual content on YouTube( which is not “ bad “ per se)  but spiritual graduation means exactly that what he said .. you cut all your addictions including the spiritual addictions and you face the emptiness of life and yourself head on. At some point it has to be done . There is no way around it . But we like to postpone it to run away but you can’t hide the truth forever .

[Mellowmarsh]

@James123 Excellent video. Thanks for this. 
 

Unbelievable clarity as to the nature of mind. 

[Mellowmarsh]

Nothing, no thing, not a thing. You are nothing.

 

As nothing: nothing can say "my nothing"

Nothing is not contained within the body-mind complex. You cannot draw a boundary around it and say, “This nothing belongs to me”  “and the other person’s nothing starts where mine ends.”

 Nothing is undivided and universal. It does not belong to any one individual. It is the same nothing that appears to illuminate all minds and bodies, yet remains itself untouched and unowned.

I fail to understand how nothingness can feel frightening when even nothing is something, just as nowhere is still somewhere in this mental conception. 
 

Nothing is just another word for YOU, or, Infinity, or, Pure awareness without an object. 

 

Seriously, there is not two infinities, or three, or four. There’s simply one, and that’s all you are. It’s so unbelievably pure and innocent. No mind will ever be able to fully comprehend nothingness because the minds job is to construct, to make something out of nothing, and can only identify with what it comprehends, never with what it cannot comprehend.

Illusions have nothing else to relate to, but themselves.

[Mellowmarsh]

I love talking about nothing. It’s the only subject I know anything about. 
 

It’s no coincidence my imaginary friend does not speak or even exist.

[Breakingthewall]

Jiddu was a liar. I known that it sounds like I pretend to be someone special, but Its true. He wasn't honest, he talk to appear enlightened and he wasn't. He was very smart, a blade, but not integral and not open to the totality. Dry talk, dry books.

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Jiddu was a liar. I known that it sounds like I pretend to be someone special, but Its true. He wasn't honest, he talk to appear enlightened and he wasn't. He was very smart, a blade, but not integral and not open to the totality. Dry talk, dry books.

Perhaps. Then again, he appears to be candid and straightforward. If he was lying or misguided, which we don't know, then not many people are sincere at a deep level. And I'd agree with you on this sentiment.

We can agree that people (us) are gullible and like to make believe - in very basic, subtle ways, not just the gross ways we go about this.

Just moving towards removing one's so-called knowledge or conclusions, in this context, is a beneficial undertaking. So let's do that.

[James123]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Jiddu was a liar. I known that it sounds like I pretend to be someone special, but Its true. He wasn't honest, he talk to appear enlightened and he wasn't. He was very smart, a blade, but not integral and not open to the totality. Dry talk, dry books.

😂😂 😂 

[Mellowmarsh]

The Nose knows. Follow the nose that knows.
 

🤥 

[Breakingthewall]

56 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Perhaps. Then again, he appears to be candid and straightforward. If he was lying or misguided, which we don't know, then not many people are sincere at a deep level. And I'd agree with you on this sentiment.

We can agree that people (us) are gullible and like to make believe - in very basic, subtle ways, not just the gross ways we go about this.

Just moving towards removing one's so-called knowledge or conclusions, in this context, is a beneficial undertaking. So let's do that.

I read at least three of Krishnamurti's books when I was 17 and I liked that kind of readings. I found them fascinating, but something was always missing. I didn't know what, but there was a feeling that something didn't quite fit.

Years later, I reread one of them, and it became so clear that I was amazed I hadn't seen it at the time. The target of his talk, the bullseye, the point he's aiming for, is himself. His speech is designed to make him appear as a genius.

And if we're being serious, he's also demonstrably wrong. He leads the reader into mental traps that hinder true liberation. If you want to analyze this particular video, lets go. Maybe you will agree with me. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

40 minutes ago, James123 said:

😂😂 😂 

You can't understand what I said because you are absolutely focused in your self image. You are a prisoner that need to think that is free, then he cant scape of his prison. 

[Breakingthewall]

13 hours ago, Someone here said:

can the mind observe this emptiness and not move away from it ?” 

The reality is not empty, not full, its unlimited, open. Empty means absence of something. Full means that nothing is lacking. Then in any case we could say that reality is full, not empty. Krishnamurti talks about basic identification. Im Chinese, I'm a man, etc.

We are not in that game. I can empty my mind of thoughts in a moment without any anxiety. Empty mind doesn't mean that I'm empty. There is still experience, and the experience is full of sensation, and in another level it could be fear, contraction, need of control. This doesn't depends of the structured thought.

Real meditation means to feel that level, see directly your fear without interpretation and be one with it. Then you see directly to death, to the unlimited without form, like an abyss that opens itself in front of you. Terrifying, because means your dissolution, the total absence of control. 

Then you say ok, yes, kill me. No jokes, destroy me and erase me. Then you realize that you are that abyss . The observer is the observed. Then your system opens itself and you are the absolute unlimited that is and can't be thought, named, remembered or said. 

That's the game, it's simple but difficult 

Edited 45 minutes ago by Breakingthewall