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Are rocks conscious?

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@LastThursday You are a type of person who finds comfort in uncertainty and enjoys the questioning more than the answers . This isn’t bad or good btw . Different stroke for different folks. Actually engage with my argument or have a nice day .


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27 minutes ago, Someone here said:

my argument

Pot kettle.

Oneness has no argument with itself.


 

Learn to say “no” without explaining. Boundaries are the invisible walls that protect dignity.

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On 4/18/2026 at 2:12 AM, Mellowmarsh said:

LOL 🃏 of the day. 

~grins~

A homer-simpson "WooHoo" is warranted?

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On 4/18/2026 at 1:11 AM, Mellowmarsh said:

How can consciousness know its conscious

contrast

On 4/18/2026 at 1:11 AM, Mellowmarsh said:

Consciousness is not even conscious.

Consciousness possesses the attribute "conscious".  Consciousness is a category.

On 4/18/2026 at 1:11 AM, Mellowmarsh said:

How can consciousness know its conscious, it would have to split into two, into knower and known.

Knowing is limited cognition.  

On 4/18/2026 at 1:11 AM, Mellowmarsh said:

Not happening.

Your loss :)

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On 18/4/2026 at 8:08 AM, Someone here said:

And if there is no perceiver then all these objects and colors and sounds are not perceptions . They are pure consciousness which is direct and immediate and isn’t happening through a process of perception inside your brain

It would be much more accurate if you said that it is reality organized in such a way that it records a chain of events creating a duality between subject and object, and we call this structure consciousness.

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1 hour ago, Ziran said:

contrast

Consciousness possesses the attribute "conscious".  Consciousness is a category.

Knowing is limited cognition.  

Your loss :)

Doh! 🤦‍♀️

 

 


 

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7 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Doh! 🤦‍♀️

"The Dao of Doh!  Making Doh into Donuts"  - By Homer Simpson

 

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You can distinguish between self-awareness (meta-cognition, meta-consciousness, self-reflection), sentience (feelings, perceptions, senses) and pure consciousness (Consciousness as an infinite field, before any I, body, or self).

A rock would be pure consciousness, but it is not necessarily sentient (which in the normal worldly realm seems generally related to sense organs) or self-aware (which in the normal worldly realm seems generally related to having big brains and especially complicated social interactions).

That said, there is nothing in principle that stops rocks from being sentient or self-aware, but from a perspective of observing things in the world and drawing conclusions about them, you'll probably have a harder time arguing for that than e.g. pigs or humans.

Edited by Carl-Richard

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@Carl-Richard very nice thanks for outlining explicitly.

They do all collapse into each other at the highest level.

From my perspective.

Which is oftentimes mistaken.

Edited by No1Here2c

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Now, Voyager, sail thou forth, to seek and find."

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