Females have their own Manosphere

[AION]

This is basically pickup for women but in their case it is to get a rich guy or a rich give they are not able to get but trying to get with black magic and stuff. 

It is interesting how similar the advice is: don’t chase, be the price, be hard to get, let him work for it, let him qualify. 

I think currently we have a war between genders. But men are the only ones who are being gaslighted. 

Currently I don’t fall for that psychological warfare. Never drop your guard. And always have your options open. Currently as a guy to go for marriage or stuff is not ideal. It is a rampage out there and just smash and pass and get yourself in a better position in the mean time. 

[Spiral]

Being hard to get does not appeal to me. Even if it’s authentic. Hard to get is essentially high maintenance, which is an unattractive prospect.

If it’s not easy it’s not right. Now easy in this case can also be medium difficult. It’s not literally about being easy. It’s more about not wasting an enormous amount of time and energy on something that probably won’t lead anywhere. And if it did, probably isn’t worth the effort.

Edited Thursday at 08:24 PM by Spiral

[Basman]

No kidding. Just look up feminist subreddits. It's socially accepted incels and chuds, except they're girls.

Surely, the prime strategy for bagging a rich guy is just being really hot and hanging out in rich people circles. One of the downsides of being a woman is that it's mostly just looks. You can't really change genes. They've been looksmaxxing since the stone age. 

[Basman]

Also being high status is probably worth more than anything. Elite circles are all about connections.

I get the feeling that gold digger forums is kind of cope. You need astronomical privilege in most cases I think. Just being on a forum and posting gold digger strats is chudposting, so it's already game over. 

Edited Thursday at 09:03 PM by Basman

[Elliott]

@Basman you think the goal of feminists is to "bag a rich guy" with looksmaxxing? What is a non-feminist woman in your eyes, she's okay with a guy that works at mcdonalds, she will not divorce if the guys business fails and he goes poor?

this is a feminist to you?

 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 09:16 PM by Elliott

[AION]

1 hour ago, Spiral said:

Being hard to get does not appeal to me. Even if it’s authentic. Hard to get is essentially high maintenance, which is an unattractive prospect.

If it’s not easy it’s not right. Now easy in this case can also be medium difficult. It’s not literally about being easy. It’s more about not wasting an enormous amount of time and energy on something that probably won’t lead anywhere. And if it did, probably isn’t worth the effort.

Something being hard to get means it is valuable. I wouldn’t want a girl that is too available either because that means she has too many notches on her belt which also means a lot of emotional baggage. I think a lot of guys think like this but obviously there are some exceptions. 

Another thing is that she can be hard to get for you because you are not valuable in her eyes and be open to another guy who she might she as valuable. 

I’m a guy who never goes for hard to get. It is too much work. I usually date a little bit below my level which means it is more easy but usually they aren’t stunning. That is the trade off. 

Edited Thursday at 09:42 PM by AION

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, AION said:

Something being hard to get means it is valuable.

Do you really think this is true? Or just in this context?

I can think of some examples where this disintegrates.

[Spiral]

In my experience girls who struggle, play hard to get to ensure the guy is actually interested in her. This is because guys often are not.

I girl who can sleep with a guy on the first date(if she feels like it) and still feel confident the guy will remain interested is a girl of high value.

Now I’m not saying you should go for the girl that sleeps around.

A Rolex watch is very pricey but not very useful. A great friendship is amazing but free of charge

Edited Friday at 10:08 AM by Spiral

[AION]

11 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Do you really think this is true? Or just in this context?

I can think of some examples where this disintegrates.

Scarcity versus abundance principle is a general principle in economics which also applies to dating. There are different things at play to but that doesn´t discredit this principle.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

On 17/04/2026 at 9:03 PM, AION said:

Scarcity versus abundance principle is a general principle in economics which also applies to dating. There are different things at play to but that doesn´t discredit this principle.

I'm asking if you think this is true in all contexts?

[AION]

2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I'm asking if you think this is true in all contexts?

yes

[Raze]

Sadly you are underestimating the issue. The female version of the manosphere is far more insidious then just telling them those things and is far more powerful and influential than the male manosphere, which is just a fringe group and meme.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

On 16. 4. 2026 at 10:59 PM, Basman said:

Also being high status is probably worth more than anything. Elite circles are all about connections.

I get the feeling that gold digger forums is kind of cope. You need astronomical privilege in most cases I think. Just being on a forum and posting gold digger strats is chudposting, so it's already game over. 

It is ovER for golddiggermaxxers. Especially in this economy

[Consept]

A massive flaw with the manosphere is that the most popular figures dont actually teach how to become valuable men, they teach how to mimic the perceived, material attributes of a valuable man. Meaning they teach you how to change on the surface rather than internally which is the true value. 

On the flip side, these women spaces you mentioned do the same thing, they mimic the behaviours of a 'high value' woman ie being hard to get. 

So essentially it becomes an arms race to see who can pretend the best and get what they want from the other side, sex or resources. Of course this can work on others playing the game or those that dont value themselves or aren't aware of the game. Both sides are essentially trying to trick an actually valuable person preferably, to give them what they want. So a unicorn would be someone of high value who's ignorant to the game. 

This has been working in capitalism for years, you lower people's worth through perceived lack and then offer a material solution that costs money. 'Youre not happy because youre not beautiful, buy these products', 'youre not happy because your status is low, buy this car'. Its a golden formula, influencers have jumped on it because theres so many people lacking internally. This is the golden age for easy solutions to deep problems, hell, Trump is in power because of this. 

Back to dating though, do you think actual valuable, authentic people have to pretend? It doesnt mean they get every person they want but they value themselves enough to be highly selective for the right person. Theres no playing hard to get, its just is this person right or wrong for me. If you value yourself then automatically there is no desperation because you dont need someone to fulfil you, that lack of desperation is in of itself attractive