The Manosphere Isn't About Men. Or Women

[Elliott]

'Why should we prioritize baseless wars, pollution, rape culture, poor education, poor health?'

"Cell phones"

(3 minutes later on Facebook, same guy)

"KIDS SHOULDNT HAVE CELL PHONES!!!!!! TECH RUINED GODS GREEN EARTH!!!! VACCINES MADE ME GAY!!!!"

Edited 1 hour ago by Elliott

[Natasha Tori Maru]

8 minutes ago, Elliott said:

You gay? What are feminine qualities in a woman in your opinion? Stoic? You like that Greek stoic on stoic action?

There is a context you are not picking up on - it isn't the statement quoted being touted as ugly.

[Elliott]

2 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

There is a context you are not picking up on - it isn't the statement quoted being touted as ugly.

Please elaborate, I've read everything she said.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, Elliott said:

Please elaborate, I've read everything she said.

It is the angry/aggressive feminist stuff that is perceived as ugly.

[Elliott]

1 minute ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

It is the angry/aggressive feminist stuff that is perceived as ugly.

The only anger and aggression i see is from the incels. I can't believe she can even talk to them, if I was a woman I would shoot guys like this, let alone not take time to try to explain something to someone obviously not willing to listen.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, Elliott said:

The only anger and aggression i see is from the incels. I can't believe she can even talk to them, if I was a woman I would shoot guys like this, let alone not take time to try to explain something to someone obviously not willing to listen.

I can read anger/blame/aggression from both sides. It isn't hard to detect.

[Lila9]

6 minutes ago, Elliott said:

The only anger and aggression i see is from the incels. I can't believe she can even talk to them, if I was a woman I would shoot guys like this, let alone not take time to try to explain something to someone obviously not willing to listen.

They are frustrated because they will never reach my level of compassion, intelligence, wisdom, open-mindedness, and spiritual development.

They know I am better than them in every aspect, and therefore they try to humble me 😊

[Lila9]

10 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I can read anger/blame/aggression from both sides. It isn't hard to detect.

Come on. I was being truthful and accurate, and there is data that backs up my posts.

They say very personal and harsh things to me, and you moderators are ignoring them because of your obvious pro-male bias.

I got warning points for less than that, seriously.

You police women on the forum more harshly than men. This only proves why feminism is so important.

[Elliott]

7 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

They are frustrated because they will never reach my level of compassion, intelligence, wisdom, open-mindedness, and spiritual development.

I'm certain they don't value any of those things.

They're just decimated existentially, by their indoctrination.

[Raze]

9 hours ago, Elliott said:

@Raze would your opinion on this topic change if women were vocal about sharing responsibility for providing for the family?

The problem is these demands are incoherent and they just behave worse the more they are met.

The feminist narrative for years was it was unfair that men were the ones earning and providing so they did everything to increase womens share of the workforce and income.

They just resented men more and now complain it’s harder to find a guy who earns more than them and continue to demand men spend money on them while justifying it with “I do unpaid domestic labor”, or as shown in the other thread even more ridiculous notions like because the patriarchy oppresses women men need to give them money to compensate. Obviously that’s ridiculous because mens obligation to provide is itself part of the patriarchal system, but just shows how they cherry pick.

But guess what, the amount of time men spend in childcare and doing housework is greater now than ever before on average. 

Did the rage at men decrease? No. They just got more frustrated and blame men more for the declining  marriage rates. 

There are other examples of this, for example for years berating men for not being emotionally intelligent and not being vulnerable, then when men started to do it they immediately coined terms like “emotional labor” “he treats me like a therapist” “mankeeping” to shame men for it.

My issue is it is incoherent and they just get more frustrated the more men give into their demands.

Personally I think the traditional arrangement works best, but I don’t actually care that much.

I’m open to any system from pure egalitarianism to role reversal if it is coherent and makes them happy.

But it never does. They just demand contradictory things and double down in frustration the more society tries to placate them. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Raze

[Elliott]

@Raze let's check something

 

@Lila9

@Natasha Tori Maru

@ladies

Do guys need to make more than women, than you? Do the guys that help around the house still suck? Do all men suck?

Edited 1 hour ago by Elliott

[Elliott]

@Raze i think you are mixing the worst people with better people to formulate your worldview. Not all women are the same woman, not all men the same man. Not all opinions by any woman are that of all women.

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[Raze]

6 minutes ago, Elliott said:

@Raze let's check something

 

@Lila9

@Natasha Tori Maru

@ladies

Do guys need to make more than women, than you? Do the guys that help around the house still suck? Do all men suck?

 

[Elliott]

Just now, Raze said:

 

I agree guys help more, I disagree that women aren't happier because of it. Some guys don't do shit though.

[Raze]

1 minute ago, Elliott said:

I agree guys help more, I disagree that women aren't happier because of it. Some guys don't do shit though.

Then why isn’t there a correlation

[Elliott]

35 minutes ago, Raze said:

Then why isn’t there a correlation

I believe there is

 

 

 

 

Edited 34 minutes ago by Elliott

[Natasha Tori Maru]

48 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Do guys need to make more than women, than you? 

No - I do not care. I have always earned more than the men I have been with. It has never been an issue.

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Do the guys that help around the house still suck? Do all men suck?

As in, does the quality of their help suck? Or do I think lower of them for assisting with normal living standards? 

Some people suck yes - its not a gender or sex thing