Is it possible for a straight man to see women objectively?

[TheGod]

I've been having a lot of insights on dating, mating and perception of women recently. 

Since I started practicing semen retention, cleared up my diet and started exercising daily I have become way more conscious than usual. My mind is sharp as a knife and very still. I realized that most of my interactions with women are very biased and filtered through unconscious sexual drive. 

I see how different I am with women I am not attracted to vs the ones I am interested in. 

Needless to say, semen retention has cleared out a lot of things, now when my libido stabilized after having watched porn for so long I can see women a little more objective but still, I'm very positive that no straight man can see women the way they are because survival runs very deeply. 

[MonkeyMan]

this is with anything, desire bends the lense of perception. For some its money, others attraction etc. 

Look into the allegory of plato's cave. 

There is a theory that plato actually practiced SR, and used attraction to beauty as a way to percieve true reality. 

It sounds crazy but tbh if you read in between the lines in the Phaedrus, it seems plausible. 

[TheGod]

10 minutes ago, MonkeyMan said:

There is a theory that plato actually practiced SR, and used attraction to beauty as a way to percieve true reality. 

SR seems to be a very personal experience. 

I know a lot of guys who have no benefits from SR but in my case I obviously do. 

I feel like the beauty of consciousness is shining brighter through forms on SR. It feels more alive.

[LordFall]

Depends what you mean by objectively. Meditation and psychedelics will help you empathize with women way more and see the world from their perspective. Then in a way you'll get 10x more horny for them as you realize the beauty of biology and sexual attraction. 

[enchanted]

You guys act like men and women are a different species and seem to forget that we are 99% similar in mind and body. 

Sadguru and other masters say the same thing. 

[Leo Gura]

Strange strategy. Not jerking off would hinder my objectivity. The point of jerking off is to be more objective and sober.

Do you know how deluded I would be about women if I never jerked off?? Lol

Edited yesterday at 12:59 AM by Leo Gura

[Xonas Pitfall]

What would you think of your daughter? What do you think of little girls (children)? You can try starting from there.

Just as you are a boy in a man's body. She is a girl in a woman's body.

Just as you are a child in a man's body. She is a child in a woman's body.

P.S. Don't anyone dare turn this into anything pedo . . . 

[TheGod]

19 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Strange strategy. Not jerking off would hinder my objectivity. The point of jerking off is to be more objective and sober.

Do you know how deluded I would be about women if I never jerked off?? Lol

Leo you should try semen retention at least for a month to see what it can give to you. 

Yes you feel very horny but it comes in waves. Most of the time I feel peaceful and very alert and I'm way more conscious also. 

Do you think Ramana Maharshi was jerking off? I higly doubt it. 

[TheGod]

15 hours ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

What would you think of your daughter? What do you think of little girls (children)? You can try starting from there.

Just as you are a boy in a man's body. She is a girl in a woman's body.

Just as you are a child in a man's body. She is a child in a woman's body.

P.S. Don't anyone dare turn this into anything pedo . . . 

I don't understand your point at all my friend 

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, TheGod said:

Do you think Ramana Maharshi was jerking off? I higly doubt it. 

He was probably screwing a goat.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Sounds like a bunch of crap

[TheGod]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He was probably screwing a goat.

I hope the goat enjoyed it 

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, TheGod said:

I hope the goat enjoyed it 

The goat found God.

[Lyubov]

To answer the question: Yes of course you can see and understand them clearly

Now whether or not you are conscious and responsible enough to go against your biases and near sided desires is another question 

[Rafael Thundercat]

On 13/04/2026 at 9:53 PM, Leo Gura said:

Strange strategy. Not jerking off would hinder my objectivity. The point of jerking off is to be more objective and sober.

Do you know how deluded I would be about women if I never jerked off?? Lol

For me too. Sometimes I was even jerking off before going to a psycadelic retreat in order to not be distracted with sexual thoughts. Ball empty and the mind is clear to focus in what matters.