Depersonalisation ≠ Enlightenment

[Elliott]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

No no, it's that you didn't understood 

Well, let's try a simpler language:

man, it's pure consciousness, pure love, and it's so so wonderful. You are god man, and those scientist are dumb and we are elite. 

Did you get it? Maybe resonates more. The point is touching the fiber of each person. 

Beautiful. Publish a paper, understanding consciousness would win you a million dollar Nobel peace prize. Make sure you throw in "see on brain scanners". You never answered, you've seen these scans?

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[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

 

 

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

Beautiful. Publish a paper, understanding consciousness would win you a million dollar Nobel peace prize. Make sure you throw in "see on brain scanners". You never answered, you've seen these scans?

Its so simple that nobody is going to give any nobel prize, look:

Let's see, consciousness, like anything else, is a manifestation of reality, right? That is, it's reality in a specific manifestation. The question is: what's the difference between consciousness and the absence of consciousness?

Duality, temporal awareness, and proprioception. If you eliminate these three variables, there's no longer any awareness of change; therefore, there's only absolute homogeneity, which is no different than nothing, according a subjective experience. That's clear, isn't it?

So, what makes duality, etc., possible? Life. Without life, there is no duality. Life is a structure that appears in the universe, self-preserving and self-repairing. It's nothing special or miraculous; it's simply another phase leap in complexity after complex molecules like RNA.

Life is a universe with its own laws within another universe (or if you prefer a system within another system) whose laws it doesn't violate, with an incessant flow of information occurring between them (the universe is made of information, which, as we all know, is equivalent to relationship).

This duality between outside and inside increases in complexity if nothing limits it, as we see inevitably happening in the universe, leading to complex organisms that interact with the primary universe through an interface that creates a model in which both external and internal reality appear.

This interface is a stable, dynamic quantum cloud, which is another universe within the secondary universe called life. At a certain point, this interface ceases to be purely sensory and becomes symbolic, taking another phase leap, and we have the human mind, interconnected with other minds. And this is consciousness. Pretty simple, isn't it?

Then you could ask: but why all those structures appears? Who is creating them? Nobody is creating them and the explanation of how they appear is same simple than the one about consciousness, maybe more. 

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[Willy Phallicus]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Well, you have a phone in your hands instead a stone, it's not small difference 

Yes, of course you're right.  A rock and a phone are two very different things.  Thanks for the revelation.

[Elliott]

27 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Let's see, consciousness, like anything else, is a manifestation of reality, right? That is, it's reality in a specific manifestation. The question is: what's the difference between consciousness and the absence of consciousness?

No. Consciousness is just a made up concept. What created consciousness, @Breakingthewall ? What was before consciousness? What is consciousness built out of?

 

You're actually using newtonian physics while trying to use terms from quantum physics, they're completely unrelated and contradicting concepts.

Write the paper, I'll submit it and take the money.

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[Breakingthewall]

17 minutes ago, Elliott said:

No. Consciousness is just a made up concept. What created consciousness, @Breakingthewall ? What was before consciousness? What is consciousness built out of?

 

You're actually using newtonian physics while trying to use terms from quantum physics, they're completely unrelated and contradicting concepts.

Write the paper, I'll submit it and take the money.

Did you read what I wrote? Try, it's not so difficult. If you don't understand any point just ask