Reading books daily is lame

[YIDIRYIDIR]

@Basman this just proves my point. school is memorization and indoctrination, you think school is for learning? 

all i learned in school is what I'm curious about, the rest is subjects i forced my self to study for grades. 

[Basman]

1 minute ago, YIDIRYIDIR said:

@Basman this just proves my point. school is memorization and indoctrination, you think school is for learning? 

all i learned in school is what I'm curious about, the rest is subjects i forced my self to study for grades. 

There are also people who find school interesting. Your acting like your experience is universal.

[Ulax]

23 minutes ago, YIDIRYIDIR said:

@Ulax Let's take your example of wanting to make a historical theory: 

You would be acting like a researcher, you would be curious all the time. because what got you to making that theory in the first place? Curiosity. you'll likely get into a phase of intense research where you find it effortless to read books without caring about how much you read, all you care about is to satisfy your curiosity, get answers. once you get those answers, reading becomes useless. after that, you'll move to another phase of theorizing and deep implementation and synthesis where you take more action than learning. that'll probably trigger more curiosity and the cycle continues. 

I can definitely see some benefits to that.

But in any skill development there are various traps that people tend to fall into. One of the roles of foundational learning is to make people not fall into those traps. Relying on curiosity alone to ensure you cover material sufficient to not fall into those traps is a difficult one I'd say.

[YIDIRYIDIR]

@Basman They might find it interesting, but not for learning reasons. it's either for teacher's and peer validation, or for status, or identity, or other unrelated reasons. No absolute single one person on earth who's sole purpose is learning for learning's sake loves the educational system. 

Edited 1 hour ago by YIDIRYIDIR

[YIDIRYIDIR]

5 minutes ago, Ulax said:

I can definitely see some benefits to that.

But in any skill development there are various traps that people tend to fall into. One of the roles of foundational learning is to make people not fall into those traps. Relying on curiosity alone to ensure you cover material sufficient to not fall into those traps is a difficult one I'd say.

So reading daily would be motivated by fear? what if you can't avoid every trap there is? 

[Ulax]

1 minute ago, YIDIRYIDIR said:

So reading daily would be motivated by fear? what if you can't avoid every trap there is? 

Maybe motivated by fear, but source of motivation doesn't matter in this context. What matters is having better education. If that better education is motivated by fear, then so be it.

I'd say its not a binary thing of avoiding every trap or not. Its just about maximising the traps you avoid, and especially about making sure you maximise avoiding the important ones. 

[YIDIRYIDIR]

16 minutes ago, Ulax said:

Maybe motivated by fear, but source of motivation doesn't matter in this context. What matters is having better education. If that better education is motivated by fear, then so be it.

I'd say its not a binary thing of avoiding every trap or not. Its just about maximising the traps you avoid, and especially about making sure you maximise avoiding the important ones. 

That's playing defence. also that won't guarantee better education, especially that you have to force yourself to read aka descipline, and forget 90% of what you read because our minds aren't designed for memorization. i might start pulling scientific studies and statistics at this point lol 

it's a simple thing, we learn what we use, and what matters to us in specific personal contexts.  how much of that "general knowledge" that all of us memorized that you remember now? no matter how important it is? the answer would be just the facts that you either used to fulfill whatever purpose, or was curious about when you learned it, and still matters to you now*. 

Edited 1 hour ago by YIDIRYIDIR