Is Germany going to side with Israel?

[Sucuk Ekmek]

Looks like Volkswagen going to produce parts for Israels missile  ''defence'' system. Who knows... now defence tomorrow ammunitions.

I think It would be better if Germany could have stayed neutral. That would be a real big dick move.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/nazi-era-weapons-maker-volkswagen-eyes-return-arms-production-time-israel

https://www.dw.com/en/is-vw-eyeing-iron-dome-parts-production-at-german-plant/a-76520877

[Ima Freeman]

Germany is not going to side with Israel, they are already closely allied.

The ruling party CDU is one of those "We stand with Israel"-sayers. No matter what happens to the Palestinians. Economy over peace.

 

It mainly comes down to the guilt of the Holocaust and being a puppet to the US.

Criticizing Zionism in Germany could even get you in jail in a politically motivated sentence, because " anti-semitism"

 

[Ima Freeman]

All the lobbying going on in the US with AIPAC and the like, must be happening in Europa in much more secret

 

 

[Nivsch]

1 hour ago, Ima Freeman said:

because " anti-semitism"

The problem is that most of the time, the criticism is being expressed in a black and white, unnuanced manner when it tries to delegitimize the notion of a Jewish state itself, using problematic broad labels that give people a cognitive shortcut from a reasonable discussion, which only worsens distortions and misunderstandings. Then no wonder people push back against that.

Edited March 28 by Nivsch

[Jannes]

1 hour ago, Ima Freeman said:

Economy over peace.

The war IS fucking up the global economy. 

[Schahin]

On 28.3.2026 at 4:39 PM, Ima Freeman said:

Germany is not going to side with Israel, they are already closely allied.

The ruling party CDU is one of those "We stand with Israel"-sayers. No matter what happens to the Palestinians. Economy over peace.

 

It mainly comes down to the guilt of the Holocaust and being a puppet to the US.

Criticizing Zionism in Germany could even get you in jail in a politically motivated sentence, because " anti-semitism"

 

 

The shameless and ruthless support of Germany during the Genocide in Gaza and still ongoing support is definitely not because of the Holocaust.

1. Germany killed 15 Million Russians in what is today Russia through barbaric means of starvation and other methods, so how is Germany on the forefront against sanctioning Russia and always the loudest part? 

2. Germany is not helping Israel because of their crimes in the Holocaust, they help Israel unconditionally because they have already found the new "Sündenbock" (scapegoat) who are the Muslims, the hatred against Muslims in Germany and the rise of the fascist party AFD together with the support in the Gaza Genocide are clear signs that Germans is trying to get rid of the guilt of their barbaric ancestors, their terrible grand and great grandfather who very psychologically sick people, they use the current trend of hating muslims to put that guilt upon the PAlestinians, declare them all as Terrorists and Antisemites that are worthy of being "defended against" (destroyed).

3. The current Chancellor has shown himself already as a staunch Muslim or Arab hater, the AFD containing several hardcore Nazi personalities and its approval with 27% currently says everything.

Edited Tuesday at 10:48 AM by Schahin

[Ima Freeman]

1 hour ago, Schahin said:

 

The shameless and ruthless support of Germany during the Genocide in Gaza and still ongoing support is definitely not because of the Holocaust.

1. Germany killed 15 Million Russians in what is today Russia through barbaric means of starvation and other methods, so how is Germany on the forefront against sanctioning Russia and always the loudest part? 

2. Germany is not helping Israel because of their crimes in the Holocaust, they help Israel unconditionally because they have already found the new "Sündenbock" (scapegoat) who are the Muslims, the hatred against Muslims in Germany and the rise of the fascist party AFD together with the support in the Gaza Genocide are clear signs that Germans is trying to get rid of the guilt of their barbaric ancestors, their terrible grand and great grandfather who very psychologically sick people, they use the current trend of hating muslims to put that guilt upon the PAlestinians, declare them all as Terrorists and Antisemites that are worthy of being "defended against" (destroyed).

3. The current Chancellor has shown himself already as a staunch Muslim or Arab hater, the AFD containing several hardcore Nazi personalities and its approval with 27% currently says everything.

I don't think so. 

Germany is pitted against Russia mainly because of the USA...
and because of conflicting political systems, pluralistic democracy vs autocratic fascism.

Germany is critical to Muslims because of mass migration and the subsequent destabilization of the society and culture.
I can attest to it as someone from central Europe. Tons of Chinese, Ukrainians, etc here, but violent crimes from foreigners come mainly from central Asian people (Arabic and Afghan).
That's a sad but open secret.

Merz just came back to CDUs original conservatism, after Merkel softened it at the end of her reign

 

[Schahin]

20 hours ago, Ima Freeman said:

I don't think so. 

Germany is pitted against Russia mainly because of the USA...
and because of conflicting political systems, pluralistic democracy vs autocratic fascism.

Germany is critical to Muslims because of mass migration and the subsequent destabilization of the society and culture.
I can attest to it as someone from central Europe. Tons of Chinese, Ukrainians, etc here, but violent crimes from foreigners come mainly from central Asian people (Arabic and Afghan).
That's a sad but open secret.

Merz just came back to CDUs original conservatism, after Merkel softened it at the end of her reign

 

 

Well considering that Germans contribute to one of the largest numbers of refugees historically,  and to two world Wars 4 Genocides only in the last century and countless Colonial Crimes, obviously they have to give something good back to the World and that is accepting refugees, to do some good in the world instead of countless crimes over many centuries to foreigners because they are racially "inferior".

Of course there can be a debate about it wheter it has to be spreaded around Europe and other debates, but how these debates are led in the public are just shameful, considering that all Arabs and all Muslims are packed into one drawer (Sündenbock "Scapegoat" Phenomena), Friedrich Merz being the leader of this type of racism.

And of course most Ucranians are Women, women tend to commit less crimes, mostly none and Chinese are not even refugees, they are students of business people. So when you support wars in the region where the refugees come from, like Syria, when Germany made massive gas deals with Russia, meanwhile Russia destroyed and bombed Syria like a lunatic, with the german money they received, its obvious that in such a warzone, crime is higher than in China. But when the war gets to Germanys doorstep, suddenly we see 20 sanction packets against Russia (What a hipocrisy)

Merz is not conersavite, he is a racist and a criminal genocide supporter, he probably earns a hell lot of money through weapon exports having worked for Black Rock previously. German Politicians are doing again the same fucked up shit they did with Syria, and what their ancestors did in the previous centuries, they support the genocide in Gaza and the terrible war in Lebanon, and the Terror in the WestBank with massive weapon export and sanction blockades, instead of pursueing seriously all the options for a two state-solution and adhering firmly to human rights.

Its okay to support the destruction of a people and their families, but when you call a German "Nazi" for his racist behaviour you get sued for that. The refugees are not damaging Germany, but Germany is responsible directly for the misery of the refugees history

Edited Wednesday at 09:36 AM by Schahin

[Ima Freeman]

3 hours ago, Schahin said:

 

Well considering that Germans contribute to one of the largest numbers of refugees historically,  and to two world Wars 4 Genocides only in the last century and countless Colonial Crimes, obviously they have to give something good back to the World and that is accepting refugees, to do some good in the world instead of countless crimes over many centuries to foreigners because they are racially "inferior".

Of course there can be a debate about it wheter it has to be spreaded around Europe and other debates, but how these debates are led in the public are just shameful, considering that all Arabs and all Muslims are packed into one drawer (Sündenbock "Scapegoat" Phenomena), Friedrich Merz being the leader of this type of racism.

And of course most Ucranians are Women, women tend to commit less crimes, mostly none and Chinese are not even refugees, they are students of business people. So when you support wars in the region where the refugees come from, like Syria, when Germany made massive gas deals with Russia, meanwhile Russia destroyed and bombed Syria like a lunatic, with the german money they received, its obvious that in such a warzone, crime is higher than in China. But when the war gets to Germanys doorstep, suddenly we see 20 sanction packets against Russia (What a hipocrisy)

Merz is not conersavite, he is a racist and a criminal genocide supporter, he probably earns a hell lot of money through weapon exports having worked for Black Rock previously. German Politicians are doing again the same fucked up shit they did with Syria, and what their ancestors did in the previous centuries, they support the genocide in Gaza and the terrible war in Lebanon, and the Terror in the WestBank with massive weapon export and sanction blockades, instead of pursueing seriously all the options for a two state-solution and adhering firmly to human rights.

Its okay to support the destruction of a people and their families, but when you call a German "Nazi" for his racist behaviour you get sued for that. The refugees are not damaging Germany, but Germany is responsible directly for the misery of the refugees history

Germany still participates in western imperialism (participating in the invasion of Afghanistan, supporting Israel, etc), that is correct.
It's history is full of double standards and hypocrisy, same as British, French, Dutch, Belgian, Portugese, Spanish, Italian and American history, all mercilessly extracted wealth out of their colonies in competition to each other. All of that led to the world of today.

It is important to consider that German politics is extremely ideologically confused, upholding European dominance in the world, because it is profitable, as well as trying to be liberal and good because of the things you stated. 

They are unconditional US and Israel supporters, but do little airdrops of food for Gaza, because starving people, eh, is a little too much.

When it comes to Arabs in Europe, much violence, clan and mafia wars, gang rapes and terror happened. It just happened in front of everybody's eyes, and the establishment tried to deny it oftentimes.

 Calling Germans Nazis for being critical about that, is just ludicrous... 
 

[Schahin]

@Ima Freeman

There are obvious Nazis and Racists, I know that because I confronted Racism 1000 times already and when you call them Nazi they sue you.

Of course there is crime, but you exaggerate it onto only a Migrant problem. The fact that they come out of War Zones that many times are created directly through Germany and European Countries is a huge factor of violence, like the Lebanese big family Clans, they come straight out of the misery that was created by Germany and in Germany they were refused to be able to work and integrate.

You disregard many terror events that occured by non migrants. Like the terrible NSU attacks, the attacks in Hanau, the attacks in Halle, the Gutenberg GYmnasium in Erfurt Terror Attack, the Cologne underground Attacks, the burning of asylum homes, then daily crimes against migrants in Eastern Germany. 

You dont mention that the real big criminal clans like Hells Angels and so on were initially created by Germans and still very high leading members are Germans. Its a distortion to associate mirgants with crime, of course there is crime, but the crime that Germany does unto many countries in the Middle East, is disproportionately higher, they support genocides and weapon Exports to Saudi Arabia, Germany aided in delivering key technologial components for Iraq to develop chemical weapons that they used upon the Kurds and in the Iraq-Iran war. Germany literally supports the slaughter of innocent Children in Gaza, Lebanon and in the West Bank, that is like the worst atrocity that you can go through in a lifetime.

In Germany criminal migrants is a daily topic, so many politicians talk about it like eating breakfast, its their daily cup of tea, especially Friedrich Merz, but when you want to talk about the complicity of Germany in the Gaza Genocide, or in Settler Terrorism in the West Bank or the indiscriminate bombing of Lebanon, or Germanys financial support for Russia, while Russia was exterminating Syrian Existences you get silenced very harshly and called an Antisemite directly 

Edited Thursday at 11:14 AM by Schahin

[Ima Freeman]

@shahin I have nothing more to say than European powers are very hypocritical and US vasals, exporting war and contributing to a lot of misery directly and indirectly for their selfish gain.

 

The circle you discribe is true to some point. Still, Kurds fled Turks and Iraqi suppression, Syrians mostly their own oppressive regime, Iraqis from the Islamic State and Afghans the Taliban. After fleeing their country, they migrated to the wealthy European countries to parttake in the wealth, which is understandable.

These people, although traumatized, are responsible for their own actions. 

3rd world immigrants from Muslim countries did so much damage in Europe, that governments had to intervene. Even the very liberal Scandinavians are now strict on immigration.

 

Right wing extremism is persecuted in Germany in the same way as jihadist-, clan-, and other migrant extremism, quite harshly.

The difference is, goverments can throttle foreigner extremism down by restricting migration, not handing out citizenship like candy or remigrate foreigners.

Where do you put your own Nazi-, Antifa-, Hooligan-, Hells Angels- and what not radicals once they finished their sentences and leave prison?

 

[Schahin]

Also you point is true but only to some point.

Right Wing Extremism is not persecuted in Germany, as you describe. How can a securely right wing extremist party like AFD be the strongest party in Germany, if Right Wing Extremism is persecuted here? Maybe some individuals in order to bring some huge news, but their sponsor, their party is the strongest party in Germany currently at least in the polls but second in the last elections.

Right Wing Extremism is actually flourishing here.

The advent of Isis in Iraq is a direct consequence of the terrible Iraq War that cost nearly 1 million or people their lives, lets not forget the torture that Iraqi Prsisoners had to endure by Americans, who even made photos of that humiliation if you remember? Of course if you slaughter my family I will radicalize and when the people are religious they will seek refuge in their religion and as such ISIS had its advent, they were brutal but still a direct consequence of the Iraq war.

Syrians had to endure the opression of their own government whose main supporter was Russia, without Russia Assad would had fallen much earlier. Who supported Russia financially with big business and gas deals (Nordstream 1 and 2), who was the main buyer of Russian Oil and Gas and funded the Russian War Machinery? Exactly it was Germany and Europeans, but especially Germany.

German is fourth biggest weapon exporter in the World sending Weapons to so many dubious places. With no shame and no remorse, because Human rights are only valid for Europeans and Americans

If you want restriction on migration the main way would be not to inflate yourself as a big rich country, who makes his money throguh dubious and criminal business deals with Murderers and Terrorist like Putin and Netanyahu or Xi. Analyze exactly where the wealth here stems from? The cheap clothes that are produced by slave labour in Bangladesh, the cheap meat that is produced by tortured animals in Massconcentration Camps and the cheap gas and oil that came from Russia with cheap components coming from Dictator China, who currently holds 1 million Mulsim Uyghurs in Concentrarion Camps where they are tortured, but Germany has only economic interests with China not human rights interests.. And there are many other dubious ways that Germans are so wealthy, cheap slave work in WestAfrica and Congo for Chocolate and Litihium, and the list goes on.

It's obvious that if countries that only seek wealth and more wealth through all means possible, that they attract people from poor countries that they themselves put misery on. If you are poor you will go to a rich country. Exactly as the sun pulls the earth into its orbit and the earth pulls the moon, and how electricity goes from plus to minus (or vice versa), that is the law of attraction.

But just so you know, Germans contribute to the highest number of refugees historically, they are literally everywhere, especially in the USA, Canada South Brazil, Argentinia, Costa Rica, Ecuador.... And those refugees mostly went there and killed the indigenous population and until today many of those communities like in Brazil speak German and maintained their german Traditions. So you see being refugee is German History too, and none of those refugees ever migrated back to Germany, other than the GermanRussians of whom some live in Germany today.

And lets not even mention the crimes and misery that european Colonialism put upon the world and the slave trade of African people and the english, italian, irish and spanish migrants and refugees, they were mostly brutal and criminal and exterminated the indigenous populations in South and North America. 

The only permanent solution to migration will be World Peace and not supporting Crimes of foreign Governments through weapon exports, business and energy deals and taking a blind eye to slave labour.

Edited 3 hours ago by Schahin