Is Germany going to side with Israel?

[Sucuk Ekmek]

Looks like Volkswagen going to produce parts for Israels missile  ''defence'' system. Who knows... now defence tomorrow ammunitions.

I think It would be better if Germany could have stayed neutral. That would be a real big dick move.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/nazi-era-weapons-maker-volkswagen-eyes-return-arms-production-time-israel

https://www.dw.com/en/is-vw-eyeing-iron-dome-parts-production-at-german-plant/a-76520877

[Ima Freeman]

Germany is not going to side with Israel, they are already closely allied.

The ruling party CDU is one of those "We stand with Israel"-sayers. No matter what happens to the Palestinians. Economy over peace.

 

It mainly comes down to the guilt of the Holocaust and being a puppet to the US.

Criticizing Zionism in Germany could even get you in jail in a politically motivated sentence, because " anti-semitism"

 

[Ima Freeman]

All the lobbying going on in the US with AIPAC and the like, must be happening in Europa in much more secret

 

 

[Nivsch]

1 hour ago, Ima Freeman said:

because " anti-semitism"

The problem is that most of the time, the criticism is being expressed in a black and white, unnuanced manner when it tries to delegitimize the notion of a Jewish state itself, using problematic broad labels that give people a cognitive shortcut from a reasonable discussion, which only worsens distortions and misunderstandings. Then no wonder people push back against that.

Edited Saturday at 04:51 PM by Nivsch

[Jannes]

1 hour ago, Ima Freeman said:

Economy over peace.

The war IS fucking up the global economy. 

[Schahin]

On 28.3.2026 at 4:39 PM, Ima Freeman said:

Germany is not going to side with Israel, they are already closely allied.

The ruling party CDU is one of those "We stand with Israel"-sayers. No matter what happens to the Palestinians. Economy over peace.

 

It mainly comes down to the guilt of the Holocaust and being a puppet to the US.

Criticizing Zionism in Germany could even get you in jail in a politically motivated sentence, because " anti-semitism"

 

 

The shameless and ruthless support of Germany during the Genocide in Gaza and still ongoing support is definitely not because of the Holocaust.

1. Germany killed 15 Million Russians in what is today Russia through barbaric means of starvation and other methods, so how is Germany on the forefront against sanctioning Russia and always the loudest part? 

2. Germany is not helping Israel because of their crimes in the Holocaust, they help Israel unconditionally because they have already found the new "Sündenbock" (scapegoat) who are the Muslims, the hatred against Muslims in Germany and the rise of the fascist party AFD together with the support in the Gaza Genocide are clear signs that Germans is trying to get rid of the guilt of their barbaric ancestors, their terrible grand and great grandfather who very psychologically sick people, they use the current trend of hating muslims to put that guilt upon the PAlestinians, declare them all as Terrorists and Antisemites that are worthy of being "defended against" (destroyed).

3. The current Chancellor has shown himself already as a staunch Muslim or Arab hater, the AFD containing several hardcore Nazi personalities and its approval with 27% currently says everything.

Edited yesterday at 10:48 AM by Schahin

[Ima Freeman]

1 hour ago, Schahin said:

 

The shameless and ruthless support of Germany during the Genocide in Gaza and still ongoing support is definitely not because of the Holocaust.

1. Germany killed 15 Million Russians in what is today Russia through barbaric means of starvation and other methods, so how is Germany on the forefront against sanctioning Russia and always the loudest part? 

2. Germany is not helping Israel because of their crimes in the Holocaust, they help Israel unconditionally because they have already found the new "Sündenbock" (scapegoat) who are the Muslims, the hatred against Muslims in Germany and the rise of the fascist party AFD together with the support in the Gaza Genocide are clear signs that Germans is trying to get rid of the guilt of their barbaric ancestors, their terrible grand and great grandfather who very psychologically sick people, they use the current trend of hating muslims to put that guilt upon the PAlestinians, declare them all as Terrorists and Antisemites that are worthy of being "defended against" (destroyed).

3. The current Chancellor has shown himself already as a staunch Muslim or Arab hater, the AFD containing several hardcore Nazi personalities and its approval with 27% currently says everything.

I don't think so. 

Germany is pitted against Russia mainly because of the USA...
and because of conflicting political systems, pluralistic democracy vs autocratic fascism.

Germany is critical to Muslims because of mass migration and the subsequent destabilization of the society and culture.
I can attest to it as someone from central Europe. Tons of Chinese, Ukrainians, etc here, but violent crimes from foreigners come mainly from central Asian people (Arabic and Afghan).
That's a sad but open secret.

Merz just came back to CDUs original conservatism, after Merkel softened it at the end of her reign

 

[Schahin]

20 hours ago, Ima Freeman said:

I don't think so. 

Germany is pitted against Russia mainly because of the USA...
and because of conflicting political systems, pluralistic democracy vs autocratic fascism.

Germany is critical to Muslims because of mass migration and the subsequent destabilization of the society and culture.
I can attest to it as someone from central Europe. Tons of Chinese, Ukrainians, etc here, but violent crimes from foreigners come mainly from central Asian people (Arabic and Afghan).
That's a sad but open secret.

Merz just came back to CDUs original conservatism, after Merkel softened it at the end of her reign

 

 

Well considering that Germans contribute to one of the largest numbers of refugees historically,  and to two world Wars 4 Genocides only in the last century and countless Colonial Crimes, obviously they have to give something good back to the World and that is accepting refugees, to do some good in the world instead of countless crimes over many centuries to foreigners because they are racially "inferior".

Of course there can be a debate about it wheter it has to be spreaded around Europe and other debates, but how these debates are led in the public are just shameful, considering that all Arabs and all Muslims are packed into one drawer (Sündenbock "Scapegoat" Phenomena), Friedrich Merz being the leader of this type of racism.

And of course most Ucranians are Women, women tend to commit less crimes, mostly none and Chinese are not even refugees, they are students of business people. So when you support wars in the region where the refugees come from, like Syria, when Germany made massive gas deals with Russia, meanwhile Russia destroyed and bombed Syria like a lunatic, with the german money they received, its obvious that in such a warzone, crime is higher than in China. But when the war gets to Germanys doorstep, suddenly we see 20 sanction packets against Russia (What a hipocrisy)

Merz is not conersavite, he is a racist and a criminal genocide supporter, he probably earns a hell lot of money through weapon exports having worked for Black Rock previously. German Politicians are doing again the same fucked up shit they did with Syria, and what their ancestors did in the previous centuries, they support the genocide in Gaza and the terrible war in Lebanon, and the Terror in the WestBank with massive weapon export and sanction blockades, instead of pursueing seriously all the options for a two state-solution and adhering firmly to human rights.

Its okay to support the destruction of a people and their families, but when you call a German "Nazi" for his racist behaviour you get sued for that. The refugees are not damaging Germany, but Germany is responsible directly for the misery of the refugees history

Edited 5 hours ago by Schahin

[Ima Freeman]

3 hours ago, Schahin said:

 

Well considering that Germans contribute to one of the largest numbers of refugees historically,  and to two world Wars 4 Genocides only in the last century and countless Colonial Crimes, obviously they have to give something good back to the World and that is accepting refugees, to do some good in the world instead of countless crimes over many centuries to foreigners because they are racially "inferior".

Of course there can be a debate about it wheter it has to be spreaded around Europe and other debates, but how these debates are led in the public are just shameful, considering that all Arabs and all Muslims are packed into one drawer (Sündenbock "Scapegoat" Phenomena), Friedrich Merz being the leader of this type of racism.

And of course most Ucranians are Women, women tend to commit less crimes, mostly none and Chinese are not even refugees, they are students of business people. So when you support wars in the region where the refugees come from, like Syria, when Germany made massive gas deals with Russia, meanwhile Russia destroyed and bombed Syria like a lunatic, with the german money they received, its obvious that in such a warzone, crime is higher than in China. But when the war gets to Germanys doorstep, suddenly we see 20 sanction packets against Russia (What a hipocrisy)

Merz is not conersavite, he is a racist and a criminal genocide supporter, he probably earns a hell lot of money through weapon exports having worked for Black Rock previously. German Politicians are doing again the same fucked up shit they did with Syria, and what their ancestors did in the previous centuries, they support the genocide in Gaza and the terrible war in Lebanon, and the Terror in the WestBank with massive weapon export and sanction blockades, instead of pursueing seriously all the options for a two state-solution and adhering firmly to human rights.

Its okay to support the destruction of a people and their families, but when you call a German "Nazi" for his racist behaviour you get sued for that. The refugees are not damaging Germany, but Germany is responsible directly for the misery of the refugees history

Germany still participates in western imperialism (participating in the invasion of Afghanistan, supporting Israel, etc), that is correct.
It's history is full of double standards and hypocrisy, same as British, French, Dutch, Belgian, Portugese, Spanish, Italian and American history, all mercilessly extracted wealth out of their colonies in competition to each other. All of that led to the world of today.

It is important to consider that German politics is extremely ideologically confused, upholding European dominance in the world, because it is profitable, as well as trying to be liberal and good because of the things you stated. 

They are unconditional US and Israel supporters, but do little airdrops of food for Gaza, because starving people, eh, is a little too much.

When it comes to Arabs in Europe, much violence, clan and mafia wars, gang rapes and terror happened. It just happened in front of everybody's eyes, and the establishment tried to deny it oftentimes.

 Calling Germans Nazis for being critical about that, is just ludicrous...