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[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Mysterious Stranger said:

@Leo Gura  What should I do to DETERMINE whats best for me. i hate scamming the shit out of these lonely men, but at the same time its literally what fixes the survival of my loved ones. 
I'm currently working as an OF chatter, the one who do the chatting for the models, our main goal is to milk these men as much as possible. 

I CAN SCALE MY MONEY VIA CREATING AN AGENCY. meaning the model and I would have a 50/50 share on the sales. 

earning tons of money. BUT THEN AGAIN, its against my values. 

You can do that business without scamming. Camming and porn is proftable enough without scammimg anyone.

If you are asking me for advice on scamming people, of course I am not going to offer you that. Why would you even come to me about such things?

Edited 8 hours ago by Leo Gura

[AION]

6 hours ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

I think I’ve written this before, but my main issue with @AION is that one can preach about “Love, respect, modesty,” while criticizing women, yet when asked questions like “Can you envision yourself with a woman who is older, as you gradually become less conventionally attracted to your partner as you both naturally age, get sick, through thick and thin, etc?" you get absolute crickets.

Again, I don’t mind if you want to live the “Red Pill Leonardo DiCaprio lifestyle”; you’re free to do whatever you want. But you can’t claim that you understand, love, or respect femininity, or that you know anything about deep human relationships, if this is your entire perspective on it. You simply cannot complain about a system that you are actively reinforcing.

Leo sometimes falls into this category, too, to be honest. He occasionally says in his videos that he desires a deep relationship and talks about how to truly love another person. Yet if you even mention to him the concept of slowly becoming less attracted to your partner in a long-term companionship, you get more crickets.

It’s very clear where the main value lies: beauty and sex. Which, hey, is fine and understandable. But this is a complete mockery of what a genuine, deep connection is and can be.

It is a false dichotomy that you are presenting. It is not either looks-youth versus love. You want me to jump through your made up hoops and get angry if I don´t do it. 

I think it is perfectly fine for men to play the field when they reach their prime in the same way women who do that when they reach their prime.

After a certain age I might settle down because after 40 it is kind of getting sketch to keep doing that.

6 hours ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

To clarify, no issue with liking it, of course. I just meant that it very much becomes a mockery of what a real, deep relationship is over time. You can’t really talk about “the desire for a deep, long-term relationship”, “selflessness, pure love“ without being okay with, or at least addressing, this simple fact of life.

That being said, I’m not really addressing this to you. I was referring to Aion’s tendency to be very opinionated about “the fall and corruption of women,” while he himself has made multiple accounts of living the same pickup/red-pill lifestyle and never really conceptualizing the possibility of being with someone older.

I´m not red pill though.

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That’s why I asked how he expects to have a proper long-term relationship this way, even though it’s something he speaks about so highly, and, in his worldview, he mostly blames women for this fault.

So I can´t have a long term relationship because I don´t want a woman who is older than me? wtf 😂

[AION]

5 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I think the point is you don't know how I work or any woman. You have an idea but it is skewed by internet algorithms and toxic stuff. 

I would never be so arrogant to claim I know how you work. You don't have one iota of who I am or how I work. You only see what I strategically present here. The same can be said for anyone.

You reject my feedback based on character, not on ideas and topics I present. Me pointing out the source and derivation of your ideas is attempting to get to the root of the issues. To illustrate how thinking is going awry. I wouldn't get upset over this. It is an idea and process critique. It appears as if you have made a personality out of your ideas and opinions. 

To be clear - I am not hostile towards you at all. I don't have any bad feelings toward you as a person. I can like someone, laugh at their jokes and enjoy their posts while simultaneously disagreeing and trying to illustrate where they are wrong. You fit into that description 😊

It could be my candid and firm statements feel like hostility. It is a challenge to ideas, not toward you as a person.

When I said " I know how you work"  I didn't meant it you as a woman. I meant how obnoxious you are in the sense that you always look down on me and know it better. If you approached me on the same plane I would have reacted to you differently.

I can easily pick back at you, because I know more than enough about you but I'm not going to do that. The only thing I'm going to say is that you project your hatred of men onto me although you don't know me and you think you know me. 

As for dating advice. I do judge people on their fruits. If they don't have a healthy romantic relationship in their life, I'm going take their advice with a grain of salt. Because that is just the safe thing to do.

I just re-read what you wrote me and what you mainly do is ad-hominom, you aren't making any solid arguments here.

[VioleGrace]

6 minutes ago, AION said:

I just re-read what you wrote me and what you mainly do is ad-hominom, you aren't making any solid arguments here.

yes she did, 

She said that your view of women is false, 

Cause you are just conforming about what you heard on social media, 

And it seems totally true for me as well and i think must not be the only one, 

the takes that you are giving seems totally baseless to me, 

I only ear that in the redpill stuffs

Edited 8 hours ago by VioleGrace

[AION]

4 hours ago, Osaid said:

100%. Strangely, the gender-based pseudoscience creates a self-fulfilling prophecy.

@AION does not want a deep bond, because that would require him to be "vulnerable" and admit that the gender ideology isn't real and he doesn't know how every woman on the planet thinks. Within his own formulation, building a deep bond with someone who is supposedly evil or corrupt makes no sense. He does not want to bond because it would be painful to do so, and the gender ideology helps to prevent him from bonding. As soon as he accepts how he feels, the ideology would fade too, they are not actually separate. The ideology is the feeling.

In a sense, he is getting exactly what he wants, at the result of emotional suppression. He picks ideology over feeling. That pesky feeling though. You can feel his resentment against the other gender building up. Instead of accepting how he feels, it's so much easier to justify it through misogynistic ideologies. "It's their fault I feel this way", "If women did this then I would feel better", etc. Anything to avoid feeling his initial assumption (that women are corrupt).

Anyways, my gosh, the women of the forum are probably laughing at how confused men are. 

I can actually bond with older women than myself quite easily, because I don't want romatics or sex from them and just want to be friends with them. Currently I'm also casually dating so I don't want to bond and I'm totally fine with that for now because that is just gaming. I don't think I have a gender ideology. I do believe in biological differences though and that biology has huge influence on behavior. If you are one of those that women and men behave in the same way, I don't agree with that. 

Edited 8 hours ago by AION

[AION]

5 minutes ago, VioleGrace said:

yes she did, 

She said that your view of women is false, 

Cause you are just conforming about what you heard on social media, 

And it seems totally true for me as well and i think must not be the only one, 

the takes that you are giving seems totally baseless to me, 

I only ear that in the redpill stuffs

That is not an argument

[VioleGrace]

15 minutes ago, AION said:

That is not an argument

Sad that you can't recognize it 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

46 minutes ago, AION said:

When I said " I know how you work"  I didn't meant it you as a woman. I meant how obnoxious you are in the sense that you always look down on me and know it better. If you approached me on the same plane I would have reacted to you differently.

There is no looking down on you. There is some laughing at the takes I hear - I will admit that 😄 but that has nothing to do with who you are. Merely mirth at some silly things said.

As above, once again, you are taking this as a character critique and taking my words as picking apart your person. This is evidenced by: 

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I can easily pick back at you, because I know more than enough about you but I'm not going to do that. The only thing I'm going to say is that you project your hatred of men onto me although you don't know me and you think you know me. 

You think that to get back in some way you need to personally attack me, as if I have done that to you. Again. I will emphasis: you know absolutely nothing about how I work as a person. You just know what facts I have put out there. 

I have attacked the ideology you are embedded in - and have made it part of your personality it is so ingrained - which is why you feel this is personal. It's not personal. Try to understand that. 

I think you instantly feel revulsion when I address you in posts because you feel my critiques and discussions are not made in good faith. I think this is what you are trying to say.

The hating men thing? I don't understand that at all. Can you show me where I show hatred to men? I am sure I can clear up any misunderstandings you have. And on the contrary, I am often told I defend men and adore men TOO much. I get accused of sexism and hatred towards my own sex over anything toward men. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[AION]

@Natasha Tori Maru  

2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

There is no looking down on you. There is some laughing at the takes I hear - I will admit that 😄 but that has nothing to do with who you are. Merely mirth at some silly things said.

As above, once again, you are taking this as a character critique and taking my words as picking apart your person. This is evidenced by: 

You think that to get back in some way you need to personally attack me, as if I have done that to you. Again. I will emphasis: you know absolutely nothing about how I work as a person. You just know what facts I have put out there. 

I have attacked the ideology you are embedded in - and have made it part of your personality it is so ingrained - which is why you feel this is personal. It's not personal. Try to understand that. 

I think you instantly feel revulsion when I address you in posts because you feel my critiques and discussions are not made in good faith. I think this is what you are trying to say.

The hating men thing? I don't understand that at all. Can you show me where I show hatred to men? I am sure I can clear up any misunderstandings you have. And on the contrary, I am often told I defend men and adore men TOO much. I get accused of sexism and hatred towards my own sex over anything toward men. 

This way you will never get a husband dear .. this is projection 101 😭 and you want me to point it out too? It is just the whole vibe of your texts. It is drenched with unprocessed pain. 

Edited 4 hours ago by AION

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@AION

Oh well. You don't seem capable of discussion. Instead resort to jabs in the dark.

[Basman]

7 hours ago, Mysterious Stranger said:

@Leo Gura  What should I do to DETERMINE whats best for me. i hate scamming the shit out of these lonely men, but at the same time its literally what fixes the survival of my loved ones. 

I'm currently working as an OF chatter, the one who do the chatting for the models, our main goal is to milk these men as much as possible. 

I CAN SCALE MY MONEY VIA CREATING AN AGENCY. meaning the model and I would have a 50/50 share on the sales. 

earning tons of money. BUT THEN AGAIN, its against my values. 

Even on prossie patreon, the girl you think your chating with is a guy in real life 👍

[AION]

2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@AION

Oh well. You don't seem capable of discussion. Instead resort to jabs in the dark.

You are way too bossy for your own good dear. It is probably over compensation for something that you might want to look into. Because if you get get into your feminine side you will be much more pleasant to talk to. And as a second note, if you want a good discussion you need to stop ad hominoms.

Edited 1 hour ago by AION

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@AION you are the only one threatened in this way. You can do better than this weird condescending act. I don't know why you are so scared, but you need not be.

Case closed. Let's not shit on OPs thread any more.

Edited 30 minutes ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[ZenAlex]

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[Leo Gura]

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