Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said: Contemplate how self-actualization, spirituality, self-help, books, practices and the path to enlightenment is a form of survival. Contemplate how attached you are to practices, teachers, teachings, books, self-actualization, spirituality, self-help. Yes yes, but by telling us "think about what you're doing" you're encouraging the very thing you're arguing against. Your advice is just self-help in disguise. Edited 8 hours ago by LastThursday This is signature is intentionally blank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 8 hours ago 33 minutes ago, LastThursday said: Yes yes, but by telling us "think about what you're doing" you're encouraging the very thing you're arguing against. Your advice is just self-help in disguise. Sure, see how full of shit I am. The work begins again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 8 hours ago (edited) Be brutally honest with yourself. See that what you are doing is just survival. After enlightenment, it is just survival again. Chop wood, carry water. Edited 8 hours ago by CARDOZZO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 8 hours ago 6 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said: Sure, see how full of shit I am. The work begins again. Enlightenment is a dripping tap, not Niagra falls. This is signature is intentionally blank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 7 hours ago 54 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said: Sure, see how full of shit I am. no, not full of shit. calloused. insensitive, naturally Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 hours ago 40 minutes ago, Ziran said: no, not full of shit. calloused. insensitive, naturally Do you see how it works? If I disagree with your fantasies and I ask you to contemplate how wrong you are, I became calloused. Now... If I agree with everything and drop some BS lovy response, you call me awake, intelligent, sensitive, construct-aware. Contemplate your BS, feel the pain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 hours ago Are you able to accept/dissolve your bullshit, lies, manipulations, fantasies, illusions, BS, attachments? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 hours ago 4 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said: Do you see how it works? If I disagree with your fantasies and I ask you to contemplate how wrong you are, I became calloused. Now... If I agree with everything and drop some BS lovy response, you call me awake, intelligent, sensitive, construct-aware. Contemplate your BS, feel the pain. It's better to be calloused than full of shit. 3 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said: Are you able to accept/dissolve your bullshit, lies, manipulations, fantasies, illusions, BS, attachments? Sure. Maximize others <<>> Minimize yourself Maximize yourself <<<>> Minimize others It's a pivot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 hours ago 16 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said: Are you able to accept/dissolve your bullshit, lies, manipulations, fantasies, illusions, BS, attachments? But I like myself! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 5 hours ago Cool question. I tend to approach reality in both ways, like "normal" mode and "overdrive" lol Like I was talking to a friend about death. And we both said like broo what?? This shit does not matter, its all the same anyway etc. But then there is the "normal" approach (we call it "keeping it a hunnid"). So by "keeping it a hunnid" we both came to the conclusion that death is scary as fu** and we want to experience more before we die. But like, what? The both modes of operation are exactly the same. Its so paradoxical Its hard to talk about. I cant explain it. So I tend to "keep it a hunnid" to do cool shit, thats the practical mode of operation. The "overdrive" is like a fundemental truth that you know is there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 43 minutes ago, UnbornTao said: But I like myself! I never hear people talking about loving death 🙃 (Symbolic Death/Self's Death) Edited 5 hours ago by CARDOZZO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 5 hours ago 36 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said: I never hear people talking about loving death 🙃 (Symbolic Death/Self's Death) We'd take it way too personally. Because we take ourselves to be our selves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, UnbornTao said: We'd take it way too personally. Because we take ourselves to be our selves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 hours ago I appreciate your responses. I know I'm looking like an asshole doing this thing. This is on purpose because you have to be challenged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said: know I'm looking like an asshole doing this thing Bro doing the zen master move Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 hours ago Is this really a good faith, open question? It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 hours ago 42 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said: Is this really a good faith, open question? 100% Actually, I got my intuitions answered. Topic is done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 hours ago I just got that we are pretending too much here. We read all this fantastical things, consciousness, potentials, this and that... but who is actually living it day to day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites