Is porn actually harmless, or are we just pretending?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

11 minutes ago, Basman said:

You can call it a compulsion. It's like the word "narcissist". It's an exact term. Using it flippantly is unserious and a misuse of serious medicial terms in my opinion.

It fits and gives gravity to the problem some people have. 

It's way above compulsion in terms of how bad the issue can inhibit the individual. 

Anyway, you are simply trying to argue some side semantics I am just not gonna agree with. 

[Basman]

8 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

It fits and gives gravity to the problem some people have. 

It's way above compulsion in terms of how bad the issue can inhibit the individual. 

Anyway, you are simply trying to argue some side semantics I am just not gonna agree with. 

Which is why it's unserious. It's not true.

"Addiction" is easily used to sneak in all sorts of assumptions. It's not just semantics it's epistemological.

Edited 3 hours ago by Basman

[Basman]

When talking about excessive porn use, and excessive media use in general, people tend to ignore the historical and socialogical trends that brought us here in the first place. Like the untethering of social bonds, the difficulty of getting a job, work itself lacking dignity in the modern age, lack of meaningful aspirations (and by extension too much free time), etc.

Maybe porn is just the friends we didn't make along the way. 

[bazera]

@Basman Have you ever been addicted (okay, used compulsively) to porn? Because it can get much much worse than your 7-8h/day gaming thing.

Nofap community has some silly idological side as well, but you can't just assume all those people doesn't really have an issue and are bullshiting. Millions of people are going through some really hard times because of porn induced issues and are desparate for help.

It's no way the same thing as compulsive gaming. Not in the same ballpark.

Not to mention the struggle that some of the spouses / partners go through when their partner has compulsive porn habits.

https://www.reddit.com/r/loveafterporn/

Just read some posts here. You'll get some idea of what I'm referring to.

Edited 3 hours ago by bazera

[Basman]

12 minutes ago, Basman said:

"Addiction" is easily used to sneak in all sorts of assumptions. It's not just semantics it's epistemological.

For one, it's masking how value ladden judgement of what constitutes "porn addiction" usually is. How much guilt plays a part. 

[bazera]

5 minutes ago, Basman said:

"Addiction" is easily used to sneak in all sorts of assumptions.

Like what assumptions specifically for "porn addiction" case?

[trenton]

@Monster Energy one thing that should be concerning is how easy it is to access porn. When people post this on the internet, anybody can access this including minors. In fact, given a cellphone and incognito mode, there is a realistic chance that a parent would never find out if their child was looking at porn.

In my case, I initially didn't look at porn and was confused by this behavior. However, when I was a teenager I was watching a police show. They were investigating a sexual predator. A police officer said that he would take pictures of women to increase sexual pleasure during masturbation.

Once given this information, it gave me the idea to now look at porn. My family never seemed to find out. It is possible that they knew, but stayed silent. In any case, I did access pornography as a child. Once I experienced the initial high, this brought me back to it in adulthood.

My recommendation is that we should probably make this content more difficult for minors to access. Maybe you can't simple Google images for pornography. That's what I did. Maybe Google would have to remove this content from being findable via these means. They might need to be isolated to websites to make it a little harder to find. Then if the minor does go to that site, I'm not sure what other measure should be used.

Does anybody think minors looking at porn is a problem?

[bazera]

26 minutes ago, trenton said:

Does anybody think minors looking at porn is a problem?

Of course, kids get hooked onto that shit in their early 10s. By the time they are in their late teens or early 20s, porn already did the damage.