Posted March 16 (edited) Theres 2 likely scenarios idiot attacks smart person person attacks idiot Smart people arent going to attack eachother. If an idiot attacks a smart person, theres no harm, because a smart person will easily let it pass. The idiot learns that the words have no power, and learns to alter their behavior. Moderating this reinforces a bad behavior, they elicit a response, acknowledgement, which is all the idiot is seeking. If a smart person attacks an idiot, they probably need it, and can learn from it. If idiots attack eachother, they'll both leave eventually. Win-win-win The moderation here concentrates the idiots here, you shelter idiots and prevent them from learning, then you just eventually ban them when a moderator has an emotional episode. Edited March 16 by Elliott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 This is like asking the inmates to run the prison yard . Truth is, this is a niche forum that attracts all kinds of perspectives, some of which are weird as hell from what I’ve observed. Without mods this would easily evolve into flame wars and shit slinging contests to see who’s most right about their worldview (which still happens even with mods) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 31 minutes ago, Elliott said: Theres 2 likely scenarios idiot attacks smart person person attacks idiot Smart people arent going to attack eachother. If an idiot attacks a smart person, theres no harm, because a smart person will easily let it pass. If a smart person attacks an idiot, they probably need it, and can learn from it. If idiots attack eachother, they'll both leave eventually. Win-win-win The moderation here concentrates the idiots here, you shelter idiots and prevent them from learning, then you just eventually ban them when a moderator has an emotional episode. There's not a SINGLE thing that is correct here. I'm genuinely laughing out loud. Amazing. Words can't describe You. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sincerity said: There's not a SINGLE thing that is correct here. I'm genuinely laughing out loud. Amazing. See, Look at this passive aggressive attack. No substance, no explanation. And this bad behavior is let to go be reinforced and spread like incel herpes by moderating anyone calling out the stupidity without going into a wasteful diatribe. You moderate specific words like they have magical power, it's immature like a little kid "YOU SAID A CURSE WORD!" Edited March 16 by Elliott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Elliott said: See, Look at this passive aggressive attack. No substance, no explanation. And this bad behavior is let to go be reinforced and spread like incel herpes. This wasn't an attack. I was saying it in a light-hearted way. Like genuinely, everything is wrong with that thing you wrote. No offense. But my favourite one was that one: Quote If idiots attack eachother, they'll both leave eventually. This must be your first day on the internet. Idiots will fight each other to their death. They will never leave. Or this one: Quote If a smart person attacks an idiot, they probably need it, and can learn from it. I'm SURE the idiot will learn. No doubts there. Edited March 16 by Sincerity Words can't describe You. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 (edited) 1 minute ago, Sincerity said: This wasn't an attack. I was saying it in a light-hearted way. Like genuinely, everything is wrong with that thing you wrote. No offense. Again, just more passive aggression, which is a result from immature moderation. This low iq behavior is fostered here. No explanation, no substance, just passive aggression, WHICH IS GREAT, RIGHT KIDS? Edited March 16 by Elliott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sincerity said: This must be your first day on the internet. Idiots will fight each other to their death. They will never leave. Then they'll learn sOmEtHiNg!@#!$@!!!! This is a place of knowledge, not a gaming forum. Moderation infantilizes and fosters idiocy, like what you're currently displaying. Edited March 16 by Elliott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 1 minute ago, Elliott said: Again, just more passive aggression, which is a result from immature moderation. This low iq behavior is fostered here. No explanation, no substance, just passive aggression, WHICH IS GREAT, RIGHT KIDS? I don't know what you're on about. Again, I was being light-hearted. And I'm not moderating anything here. 1 minute ago, Elliott said: Then they'll learn sOmEtHiNg!@#!$@!!!! Or they won't. But more importantly, the space will be polluted with idiotic arguments for all time. Words can't describe You. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sincerity said: I don't know what you're on about. We know Quote Or they won't. But more importantly, the space will be polluted with idiotic arguments for all time. There's not infinite idiots that follow Leo. They will learn or leave, no way they stick around too long. Moderation builds up a dependence, rather than exercising the users abilities to filter idiocy, infantilizing, protecting weak little cubs(we're...... ALL adults) Edited March 16 by Elliott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, Elliott said: Then they'll learn sOmEtHiNg!@#!$@!!!! This is a place of knowledge, not a gaming forum. Moderation infantilizes and fosters idiocy, like what you're currently displaying. Dude, you're the one displaying needless aggression right now, that probably feels justified to you. Be careful not to become what you think you fight. we are vital intelligent beautiful energies, the voice of earth's nascent transformation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 1 minute ago, Elliott said: We know Don't be rude. Words can't describe You. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sincerity said: Don't be rude. Oh, I wasn't being rude. I'm not sure how you came to that, what offended you? Edited March 16 by Elliott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 5 minutes ago, vibv said: Dude, you're the one displaying needless aggression right now, that probably feels justified to you. Be careful not to become what you think you fight. I'm arguing against moderation. What are you afraid of, someone reaching through your screen, THEY'RE WORDS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 1 minute ago, Elliott said: I'm arguing against moderation. What are you afraid of, someone reaching through your screen, THEY'RE WORDS. Words are way more powerful than you believe. we are vital intelligent beautiful energies, the voice of earth's nascent transformation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 (edited) 5 minutes ago, vibv said: Words are way more powerful than you believe. They're not, that's just cowardice programming you believe. The emotions you're feeling, they can't hurt you @vibv YOU are their master. They're literally just symbol drawings and sounds. This is the aversion that people are clinging to with moderation, the OP was speaking about an advanced forum, not a reddit gaming forum. Edited March 16 by Elliott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 1 minute ago, Elliott said: They're not, that's just cowardice programming you believe. The emotions you're feeling, they can't hurt you @vibv YOU are their master. Contemplate that instead of arguing for once. Contemplate Hitler for example. Language is extremely powerful and you clearly have no idea what you're playing with. we are vital intelligent beautiful energies, the voice of earth's nascent transformation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said: @Monster Energy if you are after a place for emptying, you could propose a free-for-all subforum with no moderation. My only concern with that - there's a solid possibility a lack of rules free-for-all area may bleed into the rest of the website and degrade dialogue. Personally I would empty into a journal Are you afraid of being banned? Afraid of violating a rule and having a moderator attend? These might be questions to ponder. Overall of you want to see an example of heavy moderation where disagreements of opinion are moderated, rather than just poor behaviour - Reddit lol At this point the forum turning into Reddit would probably be perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 1 hour ago, James123 said: Don't worry, %90 of mods plus Leo has no idea what they are talking about. Either being here or not, creating this forum or not don't matter. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 (edited) 6 minutes ago, vibv said: Contemplate that instead of arguing for once. Contemplate Hitler for example. Language is extremely powerful and you clearly have no idea what you're playing with. Contemplate(another passive aggressive go to, here) context OP is talking about an advanced forum Edited March 16 by Elliott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 16 A.I. moderation would be nice. One day there will be highly inteligent agents roaming around here, replacing all the pesky human moderators. There can be agents with a wokie bias, right wing bias, neo advainta bias etc. Stage green bots, stage blue bots. I bet they'd be much less insufferable than some of the pesky humans I've encountered here even if I wouldn't agree with them LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites