Romance is totaly impossible for Truth

[AerisVahnEphelia]

because romance is bullshit.

now I solved it for you.

you cannot chase love & truth at the same time.

You'll always have to trade being truthful for meeting the biological fantasy and selfishness of the other constantly.
 

[thierry]

Thank you for solving it. You can still try to unite truth with love though.  

Even if it seems impossible, it’s still worth fighting for, since the reward appears so deliciously enticing.

 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

3 minutes ago, thierry said:

Thank you for solving it. You can still try to unite truth with love though.  

Even if it seems impossible, it’s still worth fighting for, since the reward appears so deliciously enticing.

 

Nice music. I can see the paradox.
You could frame truth as “all that is.”

So “lying” becomes part of absolute truth.
But that would also be a story; and a worse one for my ego.

My ego wants its truth to be true; it needs to survive and do what it wants.
There is no escape from our own bullshit.

So what do you do when you know that the truth is you’re making it up all the time?
What if I bring this up in a relationship; what is left? Who is winning? What is true if I am the creator?

 

Edited 9 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[Cred]

It's super easy to have truth and romance at the same time. Just date someone who is autistic

[thierry]

36 minutes ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

Nice music. I can see the paradox.
You could frame truth as “all that is.”

So “lying” becomes part of absolute truth.
But that would also be a story; and a worse one for my ego.

My ego wants its truth to be true; it needs to survive and do what it wants.
There is no escape from our own bullshit.

So what do you do when you know that the truth is you’re making it up all the time?
What if I bring this up in a relationship; what is left? Who is winning? What is true if I am the creator?

 

What you want may indeed be true in the sense that it is genuinely what you desire, yet in the end Truth holds far more than anything you could ever imagine wanting.

 

[manuel bon]

Even if you make your life only about truth, you’re still doing it through a human body, mind, ego, etc.  You’re still playing the “human game”, and if you want to chase truth you still need survival, otherwise you die. 
Relationship (survival) is bullshit only from the bigger picture, not from the human one. The same way, also chasing truth is still bullshit from the bigger picture. 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

1 minute ago, manuel bon said:

Even if you make your life only about truth, you’re still doing it through a human body, mind, ego, etc.  You’re still playing the “human game”, and if you want to chase truth you still need survival, otherwise you die. 
Relationship (survival) is bullshit only from the bigger picture, not from the human one. The same way, also chasing truth is still bullshit from the bigger picture. 

Chasing Truth is bullshit indeed.
 Survival imply to self generate meaning, which is very natural overall.

 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

37 minutes ago, Cred said:

It's super easy to have truth and romance at the same time. Just date someone who is autistic

Lot of people claim to be, then they are all emotions.

Autism has become a good cover up nowadays for all kind of self perceived "abnormal behavior".

But I know what you mean though.

Rather the core ontology shall be :

Someone who understand that two selfish full of shit at the core being are just trying to preserve their nature and so will bullshit and create constant fantasy to self justify their full of shitness, reality is a fantasy of the mind.
 

that's ideal love.

People are fantasy addict, science addict, bullshit addicts.

And then this person needs to be also of my age range or else we cannot even relate to playing toy (fantasy)
We also need the same core integrity & value (biological needs)
  

 

[LastThursday]

Romance and Truth are totally separate, you can chase both if you like. Romance isn't all consuming, you can have hobbies. 

[Ramasta9]

2 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

because romance is bullshit.

now I solved it for you.

you cannot chase love & truth at the same time.

You'll always have to trade being truthful for meeting the biological fantasy and selfishness of the other constantly.
 

At the deepest level, love is truth is love, the point is to go deeper than romantic love but to die to love and truth.

Such a love cannot be chased, rather surrendered unto. 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

1 hour ago, LastThursday said:

Romance and Truth are totally separate, you can chase both if you like. Romance isn't all consuming, you can have hobbies. 

that was my point.

[LordFall]

5 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

because romance is bullshit.

now I solved it for you.

you cannot chase love & truth at the same time.

You'll always have to trade being truthful for meeting the biological fantasy and selfishness of the other constantly.
 

Why? Nothing more truthful than love, seduction and mating lol. It's the foundation of our species. 

Romance is very truthful just have to stop being delusional about it. 8 other billion human animals on this planet, you're not that much more special than the rest of us. Make yourself special or find someone that enjoys spending time with your flawed self. Isn't that special? I love dating and seduction, it's very brutal but the reward is as sweet as it comes. 

[LastThursday]

3 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

5 hours ago, LastThursday said:

Romance and Truth are totally separate, you can chase both if you like. Romance isn't all consuming, you can have hobbies. 

that was my point.

 

7 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

you cannot chase love & truth at the same time.

Nice, making a point by stating it's opposite. Must be rhetorical or something...

[AerisVahnEphelia]

2 hours ago, LordFall said:

Why? Nothing more truthful than love, seduction and mating lol. It's the foundation of our species. 

Romance is very truthful just have to stop being delusional about it. 8 other billion human animals on this planet, you're not that much more special than the rest of us. Make yourself special or find someone that enjoys spending time with your flawed self. Isn't that special? I love dating and seduction, it's very brutal but the reward is as sweet as it comes. 

 

I m definitely more special. 

Special doesn't mean better it means out of average. You literally don't even hallucinate basic reality properly and your level of delusions is so clean you can bullshit yourself into any average normies fantasy. 

 

You'll never have any romance a single time without lying. Don't try to self justify your bullshit and call it truthful. 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[LordFall]

Explain how it's lying